Beyond Hustle Culture: How to Find Joy and Build Wealth with Natalie Bullen

summary

In this episode, I chat with Natalie Bullen, a wealth and authority coach, who shares her transformative journey from bankruptcy to becoming a successful entrepreneur. We discuss the importance of self-worth, dropping hustle culture, and the need for women to take control of their financial futures. 

Natalie emphasizes the significance of unconditional self-worth, the value of time and energy, and the necessity of setting boundaries for well-being. The conversation also touches on the power of asking for help, embracing uniqueness, and finding joy in simple luxuries. Join us as we explore how to create a life of intentionality and the importance of remembering to live fully.

takeaways

• Living in the present is crucial for happiness.
• Self-worth is not tied to financial status.
• Unconditional self-worth is essential for success.
• Women must take control of their financial futures.
• Asking for help is a strength, not a weakness.
• Setting boundaries is vital for mental health.
• Hustle culture can lead to burnout and dissatisfaction.
• Finding joy in simple pleasures enhances life quality.
• Embracing uniqueness fosters authenticity and connection.
• Proactively scheduling time for self-care is necessary.

Chapters

00:00
The Journey to Present Living

03:07
From Bankruptcy to Wealth Mindset

05:57
The Importance of Self-Worth

08:45
Empowerment Through Entrepreneurship

12:02
Redefining Care and Responsibility

15:03
Navigating Financial Literacy

17:58
The Evolution of Money and Mindset

21:05
The Dangers of Hustle Culture

21:58
The Endless Hustle: A Cycle of Activity

25:06
Setting Boundaries: The Importance of Structure

27:53
Recognizing Limitations: The Value of Time and Energy

31:09
Embracing Uniqueness: The Power of Being Unusual

39:00
Creating Systems: Efficiency in Entrepreneurship

44:03
Balancing Domestic Duties and Entrepreneurship

48:32
Setting Boundaries for Mental Health

52:10
Embracing Small Luxuries and Self-Care

54:32
The Importance of Sleep and Asking for Help

58:24
Living Intentionally and Scheduling Joy

About Natalie:

Natalie Bullen,owner of Unapologetic Wealth, is a Wealth & Authority Coach who helps high-income entrepreneurs, professionals, and affluent women embody wealth at every level. 

Connect with Natalie:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliebullen/

https://unapologeticwealth.com/

https://www.facebook.com/Ladylyricist06

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Transcript

Corean Canty (00:00)
Hello friends, welcome back to the Remember to Live podcast. I am so excited to welcome my guest today. If you don't know her, you need her in your life because she is definitely an example of what it means to show up to life fully. Natalie Bullen is the owner of Unapologetic Wealth. She's a wealth and authority coach who helps high income entrepreneurs, professionals, and affluent women embody wealth at every level. Nat, welcome to the show.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (00:34)
I am so excited. Thank you for having me.

Corean Canty (00:35)
Thank you for having

me. Yay. I'm so excited that you are here. Let's take a breath and get present in the moment. I like to do that at the beginning of every show because we get busy and we forget to just be here now. And I kick it off every show with a very particular question. And so the first question I want to ask you is what moment in your life made you realize the importance of living more fully in the present?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (00:48)
I love that.

Definitely filing bankruptcy. For sure. For sure. I was like a model student at straight A's. I got a scholarship. I went to college at 18. I was working two jobs and ended up losing my scholarship and moving off campus. Finished my degree and picked up a third job. I was waiting tables at Cracker Barrel. I worked at the call center and I worked at Ross Dress for Less.

Corean Canty (01:05)
Definitely falling bankruptcy.

was like a model student, had straight A's, I got a scholarship, I went to college at 18. I was working two jobs and ended up losing my scholarship and moving off campus, finished my degree and picked up a third job. I was waiting tables at Cracker Barrel, I worked at the call center and I worked at Ross Dress for Less.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (01:31)
I probably worked about 80 hours a week, sometimes 90 hours a week. And an

Corean Canty (01:31)
I probably worked about 80 hours a sometimes 90 hours a week. And...

I

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (01:39)
illness and a bad breakup landed me on a friend's couch and ended up on bankruptcy. And at that point, I'd never been on a vacation as an adult. I didn't own any kind of designer clothes or shoes. I didn't have pets. I didn't have children. I didn't take time off. I didn't drive a fancy car. I lived in a small studio apartment.

And I'm like, I did everything right. I've literally had zero luxury or ease or fun or anything in my life. And yet I still ended up poor.

Corean Canty (02:09)
Yeah, yeah, I love that because

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (02:09)
I could have balled out. I could have went to Atlanta. I could have went to Miami. I could have went to Europe if I was going to be poor anyway. So that's probably the moment where I was like, whether you have it or not, you probably ought to try to infuse some kind of joy.

into your day to day life because one day you might wake up and realize I've let a lot of time pass without any kind of edification of self, you know.

Corean Canty (02:38)
Like we're programmed right to think about the joy and the happiness and the fun as the someday. Like we're programmed to like hustle hard now, grind, build, build, build, build, build. And hopefully one day you might still be healthy enough or get blessed enough to have that many days to enjoy it. But we know that there's an epidemic of end of life regrets right now. There's a health epidemic of burnout and crisis based on the way that we work in modern work society and the realization that

Every day we wake up is a blessing and you can find joy in it no matter what the circumstance. And I love that when you're at a point when some people might've been like, this is, I don't know what to do from here and made themselves feel even worse. You realize like, this is actually an opportunity for me to realize I can find joy in this. And if I can find joy in this, I can find joy in anything.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (03:31)
Pretty much.

Corean Canty (03:33)
Yeah. So tell me a little bit about that, the transition from where you were then to who you are now, because I, I'm a member of your community. There's so many people in the community who look to you to figure out how to be financially stable, to think about wealth, to think about living in a different way. And so you've come a long way from the outside, from that time to where you are now and how you inspire others.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (04:00)
That's true. would say I'm still the same person though. You know, like I was never financially irresponsible. I had a 700 FICO score when I filed, I just had lost my income and couldn't work. So I think what people really should get from this is that one, the American dream is false. And then if you are low income, you're in trouble and you should do whatever you can to increase your income.

Corean Canty (04:03)
Mm-hmm.

I am so.

income right you could work right oh I think what people really should get from this is that one the American dream is false and if you are low income you're in trouble and you should do whatever you can to increase your income

and to figure self-worth and your network are not attached so I still feel great about me sitting in that bankruptcy office just like I felt good about me when I put on 50 pounds

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (04:26)
And two, that your self-worth and your net worth are not attached. So I still feel great about me sitting in that bankruptcy office. Just like I felt good about me when I put on 50 pounds.

Just like I felt good about me when my launches flopped. It's like I felt good about me when I had stress and had to cut my hair to this short. I've always felt good about me. So think a lot of times people treat themselves better when they're winning.

Corean Canty (04:38)
Just like I felt good about me when my lawn just flopped. Just like I felt good about me when I had stress and had to my hair to this short. I've always felt good about me. I think a lot of times people treat themselves better when they're winning.

And they treat themselves worse when they are failing or losing. So the way that they treat themselves is very conditional. And I've always had an unconditional confident view of myself.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (04:54)
and it feels worse when they are failing or losing. Well, the way that they treat themselves is very conditional and I've always had an unconditional confident view of myself

all the time and that makes the difference. So I would argue that I'm the exact same person who was sitting in that room. I've just figured out how to make more money.

Corean Canty (05:08)
all the time. Yeah. That makes the difference. So I would argue that I'm the exact same person who was sitting in their room. I just figured out how to make more money.

Right, right. Well, and what's so important about that is like life's gonna life, right? We can do all the planning, have all the strategy, follow the follow the dot to dot thing that was laid out in front of us. But life is gonna life. We never know what might come up. We don't know what's gonna happen. I mean, look at the world we're living in right now.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (05:24)
Yep. Yep.

Corean Canty (05:35)
It's just nothing but uncertainty, right? And so that anchor of self and finding joy in the presence and finding joy within yourself is so critical. And I think a lot of people miss it. So I'm really happy that you pointed that out because it's kind of like the cheat code.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (05:36)
Yeah.

Yeah. Unconditional self-worth is the Chico. Unfortunately, very few people even recognize that they have a conditional view of self. And it starts early. We teach young women that they have no value until they get married and have mothers. I have babies. Right? That's something that's pushed down on women societally. So I meet single women who are 30 who hate themselves.

Corean Canty (05:57)
I'm gonna just miss out work is the chico unfortunately very few people even recognize that they have a conditional view of self Right it starts early. We teach young women that they have no value until they get married have mothers

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (06:20)
because they don't feel like they have fully realized what it means to be a woman. They think they are like unholy as a person

until their uterus can create a life.

Corean Canty (06:27)
until their viewers can create a life.

You say, but you're still you, you're still great. Like you don't have to multiply to achieve that. You don't have to get a man to go to sales and buy a piece of jewelry to achieve that. Right. I have ideas or objectives that require other people in first place. If it takes more than one person to get it done, then I can't be certain it's going to get done. You can't make other people act in alignment with your timeline, you know?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (06:31)
It's like, but you're still you, you're still great. Like you don't have to multiply to achieve that. You don't have to get a man to go to sales and buy a piece of jewelry to achieve that. And I don't like ideas or objectives that require other people in the first place. If it takes more than one person to get it done, then I can't be certain it's going to get done. You can't make other people act in alignment with your timeline, you know?

Corean Canty (06:56)
Yeah, I think that's important when we think about like relationships as a whole, right? And like who we are as we come into our own, because I look at it as, I never felt like I needed to find someone else to make me complete. I have always looked at it as, I need another whole complete person to come and have fun on this journey with me, right? Like, are we compatible and aligned in ways in our whole complete selves? And think about showing up to life together in a way that

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (07:13)
Mmm.

Yeah.

Corean Canty (07:25)
we add value to each other's lives, but we're not incomplete or less than or negative if we don't have these traditional identities that we're supposed to grow into. And only women get pushed that off on. Single men do not get that rhetoric that they are whole or right or decent or that something is wrong with them. Only women get that rhetoric and they drag that into business. Because it's like, great, until I have a six-year-old here.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (07:39)
And only women get pushed that off on single men do not get that rhetoric that they aren't whole or right or decent or that something is wrong with them. Only women get that rhetoric and they drag that into business because it's like, well, great until I have a six figure year

or six figure month or six figure week or a profile client or high ticket offer or insight in insert goal here until I have that, that I'm not good enough. And if you go out into the world with that not good enough spirit,

Corean Canty (08:05)
Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (08:09)
It will trample every goal you try to accomplish. You cannot accomplish big goals with a small view of yourself.

Corean Canty (08:16)
And if you don't celebrate the little wins, right? Like if you're constantly

holding off on to giving yourself joy or like getting the massage or buying the latte or doing the nice thing for you because you've set these ridiculous goals that you can't have anything of value or fun or pleasure until you reach these goals becomes like a never ending cycle.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (08:42)
Yeah, I agree.

Corean Canty (08:45)
I think so one of the things that we talked about before is this kind of idea of how you fell into entrepreneurship. And I'd like to, I'd love to talk a little bit more about that because as we think about the fact that like, we know the cheat code is how we feel about ourselves and how we show up to life every day, but money does help, right? Like we're not going to pretend that life isn't, isn't easier in this society of consumerism and capitalism.

when you have money to be able to make decisions, to be able to live in certain places, to be able to put your money towards the things that you care about and that matter. But there is a certain mindset and mentality that has to come to building wealth and not even necessarily do I do corporate or entrepreneurship, but talk a little bit about money mindset, how you fell into entrepreneurship and why you're so passionate about teaching, especially women, the power of wealth.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (09:44)
In the year 2053, black wealth is set to hit zero dollars.

Corean Canty (09:47)
set to hit zero dollars.

It's 2025.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (09:52)
It's 2025.

In 28 years, when you and I are both going to still be alive, the collective net worth of Black persons in America is going to trend down and hit zero.

Corean Canty (09:57)
In 28 years, when you and I are both going to still be alive, collective network of black persons in America is going to trend down and hit zero.

That is a real confused thing. That's mind boggling. So if that doesn't get you out of bed and get you pumped up to do something, don't know what will.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (10:11)
That is a real confusing, that, that's, that's mind boggling. So if that doesn't get you out of bed and get you pumped up to do something, don't know what will.

If you serve black people, if you are a black people, or if you give a damn about black people, that statistics should make you get up an hour early to figure out what you're to do about it. As an aside, I think ultimately that we have to take control.

Corean Canty (10:23)
If you serve black people, you are black people, or if you give a damn about black people, that statistic should make you get up an hour early to figure out what you're going to do about it. Right. As an aside, I think ultimately that we have to take control.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (10:38)
you know, part of what I dislike around the rhetoric of, you know, reparations or the horrible dismantling of DEI is that we center around what men can do for

Corean Canty (10:38)
You know, part of what I just like around the rhetoric of, you know, reparations or the horrible dismantling of DEI is that we center around what men can do.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (10:51)
us or what white people in power can do for us, what politicians can do for us or what the government can do for us. always this nebulous audience that has all the power and we have no power and we have to kind of wait on the system.

Corean Canty (10:51)
us or what white people in power can do for us, what politicians can do for us, or what the government can do for us. There's always this nebulous audience that has all the power, and we have no power. And we have to kind of wait

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (11:06)
to change and I think it is self-depreciating because we have the power to implement some changes now.

Corean Canty (11:06)
on this change. And I think it is self-depreciating because we have the power to implement some changes now.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (11:15)
Is racism real? Hell yeah. I live in Alabama. I worked at Cracker Barrel. Okay, I'm familiar. However, when you're an entrepreneur, you get to choose your clients. I've never had a racist client at Unapologetic Wealth. Most of my clients aren't even people of color. How about that?

Corean Canty (11:15)
Is racism real? Hell yeah. live in Alabama. Worked at Cracker Barrel. I'm familiar. However, when you're an entrepreneur, you get to choose your clients. I've never had a racist client at Unapologetically. Most of my clients aren't even people of color. How about that?

So it's very important for us to take our own agency and our financial sovereignty and decide. I decided I didn't want to be middle class. I didn't want to be...

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (11:32)
So it's very important for us to take our own agency and our financial sovereignty and decide. I decided I didn't want to be middle-class. I didn't want to be

one illness or one surgery or one bad breakup away from sleeping on a friend's couch. I didn't want to not have $10,000 for emergencies. I didn't want my parents to be elderly and me not be able to afford to help them. I'm 37 and my mother is 75 and my father is about to be 77 this year.

Corean Canty (11:43)
Yeah, yeah

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (12:02)
So they had me later in life. I knew I did not want to be the daughter who could only send them thoughts and prayers and couldn't send them no money. So for me, it's very personal.

Corean Canty (12:12)
Yeah, and I definitely

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (12:13)
I decided that the socioeconomic status I was in wasn't good enough and that I had the power to do something about it.

And I think that's what people really have to get. People really have to get to the point where they are tired of the status quo, whatever that is. Because once you make that decision, everything else falls behind

it.

Corean Canty (12:34)
Yeah. we can't, and it's not like when our grandparents came up in a world where you found one good job, there were actual things called pensions. The companies actually took care of you at the end of it after you gave 40 or 50 years of your life. Like that doesn't exist anymore, right? Even our retirement funds are based on trends of up and down in the stock market. And the one thing no one really prepares us for is aging parents.

We get all this news and all this talk about what it means to become a parent and how expensive and how you need to be prepared to pay for kids, so to speak. But I know we've talked about this and with me becoming a caretaker to my mother and her partner, and we talked about how you're starting to enter that season as well. And just the idea that like our society that we live in is not set up to take care of them. And if we don't want our parents to suffer.

It's kind of on us, right? But if we're not thinking about that, if we're not even thinking about how do we take care of ourselves, we're definitely not planning to take care of our parents as well.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (13:40)
That's true. And I think too, you know, even take care of gets misconstrued. People think they're taking care of their kids because they're giving them birthday parties and buying them Jordans and taking them to Disney World. But when you try to open a 529 plan, they won't give you the kids social. Right? When you want to give them money for Christmas, is that money going in the trust? I'll meet parents who don't have life insurance who tell me they love their children. That's very confusing to me.

Corean Canty (13:42)
think they're taking care of their kids because they're giving them birthday parties and buying them Jordans and taking them to Disney work. But when you try to open a 529 plan, it won't give you the kids social. when you the money for Christmas, it's that money going in the trust. How many parents are going to have life insurers who tell me they love their children? That's very confusing to me.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (14:09)
You're not rich. can't sell the insurer

Corean Canty (14:09)
They're not rich. You can't self insure.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (14:11)
and you don't have life insurance. So something happens to you. What happens to your child? Where's the parenting agreement? Where's the medical healthcare director? So it's also that we have not been trained. What take care of even means as a people, we're really unclear on how do we protect.

Corean Canty (14:12)
And you don't have life insurance. So something happens to you. What happens to your child? Where's the parenting agreement? Where's the medical health care director? So it's also that we have not been trained what take care of even needs as a people. We're really unclear on how do we protect

our money to grow it into wealth. We're so used to the earning. I'm going to earn, I'm going to earn, I'm going to work, I'm going to work, I'm going to stack this money, I'm going to get a bag.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (14:30)
our money to grow it into wealth. We're so used to the earning. I'm going to earn, I'm going to earn, I'm going to work, I'm going to work, I'm going to stack this money, I'm going to get a bag. When

you think about the, the kind, it's a very common trope of earn a lot of money, spend a lot of money and repeat. And until that becomes a pattern interrupt of I'm tired of making a whole lot of money and I have anything to show for it. We'll continue to repeat those behaviors.

Corean Canty (14:40)
you think about the very common choke or earn a lot of money, spend a lot of money and work. And until that becomes a pattern interrupt of I'm tired of making a whole lot of money and I have anything to show for it.

Yeah, yeah. And we don't, and like, it's not something that they want to teach us, right? They don't want to teach us this in school. They want to teach us the survival skills that help us get ahead. We have to take it upon ourselves.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (15:04)
no.

Barely even that they don't teach kids how to interview how to have eye contact how to give a firm handshake How to write in cursive how to be on time for work how to dress professionally? I remember there was this little girl. She went on a job interview and some shorts And they sent her home and she's talking about what's wrong with shorts. I'm not changing Baby, you don't go to no job interview. No blazer and no short, sweetie. That's not

Corean Canty (15:11)
They don't teach kids how to interview, how to have eye contact, how to give a fun handshake, how to write in cursive, how to be on time for work, how to dress professionally. I remember there was this beautiful girl, went on a job interview with some shorts. And they sent her home. And she's talking about, what's wrong with shorts? I'm not changing. Baby, you don't go no job interview with no blazer and no shorts, sweetie. That's not,

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (15:33)
What in the Gen Z is that? That's crazy. Like we would know better, but like no one is teaching the younger generation,

Corean Canty (15:33)
what in the Gen Z is that? That's crazy. Like we would know better, but like no one is teaching the younger generation.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (15:40)
even the survival skills. I meet young women that don't know how to cook. They don't know how to sew. They don't have like just the basic, they don't know to file their taxes. I mean, there's no, so it's like, not only is there no financial literacy, there's no like, like we have home ec, basket even P E something. All of that.

Corean Canty (15:40)
even the survival skills. I mean, young women that don't know how to cook. don't know how to sow They don't know the basics. They don't know how file a taxes. There's no, not only is there no financial literacy, there's no like, we have home ecs. Right. We had all of that and they've taken it all out

of schools.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (16:02)
I was

just taking it all out of the schools. And when I worked at the bank, I would have young people who were working jobs, getting paper checks. They did not know how to write in cursive. They could not sign their name. They had to print their name on the back of the check. And we had to accept that as a signature.

Corean Canty (16:07)
That's

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (16:20)
Imagine not being able to sign your own name, but they don't want the children to know how to read cursive because historical documents are written in script. So you can tell that child what that document says, whatever, if the child does not know how to read script, it's very intentional and scary.

It's really important for us to not allow certain things to die and certain narratives to be moved and shifted by persons who are embarrassed about how they treated certain groups of people in the past.

Corean Canty (16:36)
it's really important for us to not allow certain things to die and certain narratives to be moved and shifted by persons who are embarrassed about how they treated certain groups of people in the past.

Yeah. And when you think about even just that concept of like how money moves now, even from when we were kids and like that's not that long ago, but like I remember when my son, when I first opened up his bank account and he just graduated from college. So this was like high school. So this is still

even old data. But we went to the store for the first time as he started thinking about money. And he was like, mom, why are you pulling out your credit card? Because in his mind, you just used your phone. Like, what would you ever use a card for? Like everything is so digital and it doesn't even feel tangible anymore. Right. And so how, how, how these money mindsets are coming up when we have monopoly money.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (17:23)
Mm.

Corean Canty (17:35)
in so many different ways. Like there's money, we have all of these monies being made up across cryptocurrencies. have everything has been gamified and it's like, how do we even help kids understand what it means to build wealth and what is of real value and what are you able to exchange in times of crisis to get the things that you actually need to survive?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (17:58)
Yeah, that's a, that's a great point. See, you're born in the eighties. You don't even think about stuff like that. Cause it's my nature to pull out a card and um, but yeah, you're right. When you go to Starbucks, you get in the line. People just like scanning phones. You're just handed out with the phone, with the phone, every person. And then it's just like, I pull up my credit card and look at it. They're looking at me. They're looking at it. They're like, you don't want to scan to pay. You want to tap. don't want to do that. saying, I don't do none of that. I want to give you my credit card. Like I just did, you know, like.

Corean Canty (18:01)
Right

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (18:29)
It's payment. What do you want? Now

they look at my credit card like it's cash. I'm like, come on, come on, it's not that bad. I'm not that old. They look, not even cash. They look at it like it's a check. Like what is, what is, what is this credit card contract?

Corean Canty (18:30)
It takes so long

to open your wallet and pull it out. whereas we have this, we're like in a speed hustle culture, right? Like we don't take the time to just slow down. Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (18:46)
Put it in the machine and...

And it's like, what's the rush?

What is the rush? Exactly. I worked at a grocery store and I watched old people write checks and they ain't even start writing the check until I bagged up all of the groceries. Okay. Well, you know, they could have had the date and the name of the grocery store and the signature already done while I was doing all of this work. But no, they wait for a total honey. And then they pull out the checkbook and then they write it meticulously in a little script. And then I had to run the check.

Corean Canty (18:57)
old people write checks. And they ain't even start writing the check until I'm back with all the groceries, okay? You know they could have had the date and the name of the grocery store and the signature already done while I was doing all of this work, but no, they totaled money. And then they pull out their check and they write it meticulously in their little script. And then I had to run the check

and they had to the little Morse code stuff on the back. And I had to get their driver's license. had to write the number across the top.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (19:20)
And they had to print the little Morse code stuff on the back and I had to get the driver's license. had to write the number across the top

and put it in my tail. Like it took three solid minutes to process a check. And so the idea that now you want me to pay in five seconds and get out your line, it's just, it makes you feel old.

Corean Canty (19:27)
and put it in my tail, like it took three solid minutes. You process, check. And so the idea that now you want me to pay in five seconds to get out your line, just, it makes you feel old.

Well, that and just think about like what we don't recognize, because we all get so impatient, right? Like if you went to the grocery store right now and you saw that in front of you, how many people in line are going to like act like their life is over?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (19:49)
That's true. I wouldn't mind because I'm supposed to be to

date the elderly. And so like I would never be disrespectful to a person who was 70 plus years old. I really don't care how long it takes them. Like I would stand in line five minutes behind a person writing a check. Seriously, because I want them to be comfortable and purchase the way that they are accustomed to purchasing the way they've done their whole life. But most people know. But I also again have people that are like

Corean Canty (19:58)
who is 70 plus years old, really don't care how long it takes them. Like I was standing like...

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (20:17)
My grandparents lived into their nineties. You know, I'm just, I'm a different breed when it comes to, I just feel like we should have the utmost respect for our elders and maybe not even 70. I feel like when you hit 60, people should give some reverence to your wisdom.

Corean Canty (20:30)
And

also like what we're missing

is the wisdom in it, the wisdom of moving slow because we live in such a culture that's like speed and hustle. Like what are you hustling towards? Like what are you trying to get to so fast that you will miss every moment in your life and then get to the end of it and have all these regrets? if, and just imagine if someone was blessed enough to live to be in their eighties, what are they rushing towards? They understand that every moment within itself is a blessing. So I'm gonna take my time.

I'm going to write my check. I'm going to do the things that are comfortable for me. Right. So if you're even blessed to still be mobile and independent at that age, there's a certain wisdom in learning how to go slow and having the slow mornings in showing up to every moment that you get. we spend so much time rushing towards something that's really just creating a big old pile of regrets.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (21:28)
That is, that is really profound. I really like that. What are you hustling toward? You know, and that's, that's the scary thing about hustle culture. And it's why I left hustle culture in 2017. it's scary because it has no end. It is a hamper wheel. It has no destination. You can never finish hustling. That's the problem. You know, hard work, smart work, investments. have it. They have a termination. They have a terminal point.

Corean Canty (21:41)
It's scary because it has no end. It has no destination. You can never finish hustling. That's the problem. Right. know, hard work, smart work, investments, they have a termination. They have a terminal point.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (21:58)
There is no terminal point to hustle and every hustler you know, been hustling since you met him and will hustle till they die. Like you never get ahead. You always make just enough money to encourage you to keep the hustle going.

Corean Canty (21:59)
There is no terminal point to hustle. And every hustler you know has been hustling since you met them and will hustle until they die. You never get ahead. You always make just enough money to keep the hustle going.

Right, Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (22:11)
You know, scammers and scammers, you know, I was watching the Bernie Madoff documentary again and had so much money. He had gotten over on so many people. He'd make tens of millions of dollars, but he spent it all as fast as he made it. So the hustle had to continue. Like he never

came up. It was never enough. It was never over. Most of us look back and go, man, he made a hundred million dollars. That wasn't enough. You couldn't have just like stopped. You couldn't have quit. But no, it was a hustle. He had to keep doing it. Like

that was the thing, the activity. And like, what are we doing activity towards? I am very particular now about my calendar. I have a certain maximum number of meetings that I allow myself to have per day. And if that means something needs to get rescheduled, then that's just what it means.

Corean Canty (22:39)
Like that was the thing, the activity. like, what are we doing activity towards? I am very particular now about my calendar. I have a certain maximum number of meetings that I allow myself to have per day. And if that means something needs to get rescheduled, then that's just what it means.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (22:56)
And if that means that people are unhappy with it, then that's what it has to mean. You know, I do work obviously to not purposely schedule meetings that I'm going to have to reschedule 10 times. That's crazy. But

Corean Canty (22:56)
And if that means that people are unhappy with it, then that's what it has to mean. You know, I work obviously to not purposely schedule meetings that I'm gonna have to reschedule 10 times. That's crazy. But.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (23:08)
if I double book myself or if things need to move around for a client, even now, Hey, we apologize. We've had a schedule conflict and we need to move to a different day. Here's some times that work for us and has occasionally a person gone. that's terrible. You're a bad person.

Corean Canty (23:08)
If I double booked myself or if things need to move around for a client, even now, I re-apologize and you gotta schedule a date and move to a different date. Here's some times that were worse. have occasionally a person gone, oh, that's terrible. You're a bad person.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (23:25)
Actually, no one's ever said that, but if people been like, well, I don't know when we can reschedule. We'll talk about it later. But generally people go, that's fine. And sometimes people go, thank God I'm overbooked

Corean Canty (23:25)
Actually, no, it's never so bad. But if people been like, oh, well, I don't know when we can reschedule. We'll talk about it later. But generally people go, that's fine. And sometimes people go, oh, thank God. Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (23:37)
or whatever, whatever too. The number of times I've moved an appointment and somebody went, whoo, girl, is great. Most people are so great. It's so funny. So now I never have guilt around rescheduling an appointment because eight times out of 10,

Corean Canty (23:42)
Most people are grateful to get the time back. Yes.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (23:55)
They are so glad I did it. They are just like, yup, that is the best news. I appreciate you. And I'm thinking to myself, man, I was about to push myself to get on this phone and for what?

And for what? So, you know, it's, important for us to be careful with the way that we structure our business. You know, this year I'm only taking on three private clients. I have one that's already committed. So I'm going to have four and that's it for the year. Everyone else will need to get in a group program that already exists. We're not doing custom proposals. We're not doing custom work. You want to have to buy something that we've tried and true. We've got systems for, we've got the tech for, we've got the emails written for.

If it's not, it's not. You know, I'm having an easeful year. You know, I'm in a business development program and today she tried to get me to set a more aggressive goal. And I was like, no, I'm recovering from burnout. This is the goal. This is the same. Well, this program is meant to stretch you in this and that. Right. I'm recovering from burnout. And so this is my goal. I am not extending it. I'm not doubling it. I'm not stretching it. I'm not challenging it. I need you to understand the words that are coming out of my mouth. Now.

Corean Canty (24:39)
I'm in a business development program and today

Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (25:06)
That means that I'm no longer qualified for this program. am, you, you are allowed to set a boundary as well, but this is my boundary and it is taking me years to be able to emphatically state this

Corean Canty (25:18)
This is my boundary. I'm not going to change it. And if you need to do something in reaction to my boundary, I'm going to pay with that. You do what you need to

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (25:18)
is my boundary. I'm not going to change it. And if you need to do something in reaction to my boundary, I'm, okay with that. You do what you need to do.

Corean Canty (25:29)
do. Right. Right. I think that's such an important point, right? Because we get caught up in this hustle culture. It gets in our body. And then our bodies are programmed to feel the pressure until our bodies have to roar. So we stop and reset because I suffered.

from a health crisis, from burnout a few years ago as well. And then, so we get to this point where at first we think time is our most valuable resource, but then it's not even the time. Our energy is our most valuable resource because even if you have the time for it and you're burnt out and your brain can't function because you have no energy left or nothing in the tank, you can't be as effective as you want to. You can't be as impactful as you want to. You can't achieve the things that you want to. The quality of work suffers and the quality of your health suffers. And so,

I know you've worked a lot in these last few years, especially on understanding the value of your time and your energy in learning how to outsource tasks. And can you talk a little bit more about that? Because I know there's a lot of people who are transitioning from corporate to running their own businesses or trying to build a side hustle because they know corporate isn't the security blanket that they thought it was going to be or provide the stability that they thought because

with the ATS systems now, you can't even get a first interview if you get laid off. So how do we help people think about the value of their time and energy and how getting that right helps everything else fall into place?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (26:57)
I think we have to all confront a really uncomfortable truth that we are limited as human beings. Most of us think we're infallible and because we've been running on E indefinitely, we tend to take on too much early. And people do it to their kids. I know kids that are busier than I am. I know kids in three, four sports, two, three extracurriculars is nuts, right? But like,

Corean Canty (27:03)
that we are limited as human beings. Most of us think we're invaluable. And because we've been running on E indefinitely.

in to take on too much early. And people do to their kids. I know kids that are busy than I am. I know kids in three, four sports, three extracurricular, it's just nuts, right? But like,

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (27:26)
We take on too much and think it's normal. If your normal is working 80 hours a week, your nervous system is so used to being fried. It thinks that's normal. If you think, if you get five hours of sleep at night and you think you're well rested,

Corean Canty (27:26)
we take on too much and think it's normal. If your normal is working 80 hours a week, your nervous system is so used to being fried. If you get five hours of sleep at night and you think you're well rested,

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (27:42)
your, your normal is, is not ideal. So I think admitting I am limited as a person, I have a limited amount of good brain time.

You might be awake for 16 hours, but you are not at optimal brain function for all of those. So admitting that, or you could say if you're a woman, Hey, I might be alive 28 days of my menstrual cycle, but I don't feel that my best for all 28 of those days. Right? Okay. I can admit that you might say, I could stay up until midnight, but my brain ain't worth a damn after eight o'clock. And then setting up systems that actually support

Corean Canty (28:09)
Amen to that, right?

I can admit that you might say I could stay up until midnight, but my brain ain't worth working them after eight o'clock. And then setting up systems that actually support

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (28:23)
your optimal state. When you're an entrepreneur, you don't have to work a schedule that someone gives you. You work corporate, you work the hours that the job says. Job say 9 to 5, you work 9 to 5. So if your brain is fried at nine in the morning, well, you work through nine to five. But now I don't

Corean Canty (28:23)
your optimal state. You're an optimal or you don't have to work a schedule that someone gives you. You work corporate, you work the hours, the job. Right, right. if your brain is crying at nine in the morning, well, you work through nine to five. But now

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (28:40)
have AM appointments. And if I do, it's like 11 AM, maybe even 10 AM. I cannot do.

Corean Canty (28:40)
Same.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (28:49)
six or seven. I have won a fellowship in San Diego and I'll be on Pacific time for three or four weeks. Well, I'm in central time now and I've already let people know, Hey, if we have a meeting that's at nine or 10 or 11, it's going to need to be moved because I'm not meeting with anybody at seven o'clock in the morning, which is what time it would be

Pacific, right? Like I'm already in front of, am not meeting with you at seven o'clock in the morning. And so

Corean Canty (29:09)
Right

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (29:17)
I think really getting honest with ourselves. also think we have to confront a part of us that says I should be able to do everything alone. If you were raised to be independent, you think the opposite of independent is codependent or maybe that the opposite of independent is weak, right? Opposite of independent is interdependent.

And most of us haven't even heard of that word, don't even know what it is. And so I'll meet people who say I should be further along by now. And I'm like,

Corean Canty (29:38)
And most of us have never even heard of that word. And so I'll meet people who say, I should be further along by now. And I'm like, on

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (29:46)
On what basis? Well, you know, I'm 35, I'm 45, I'm 55 and I don't have wealth and I don't have this and I don't have a team and I haven't had a six figure year and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, who taught you to do those things? Well, nobody. should just know. From what? Osmosis? telecanesis?

Corean Canty (29:46)
what basis? Right. Well, you know, I'm 35 or 45 or 55 and I don't have wealth and I don't have this and I don't have a team and I haven't had a six figure year and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, who taught you to do those things? Well, nobody. I should just know. From what? Osmosis? Right. kinesis?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (30:04)
Like through what mechanism should you be able to absorb? It's not like rubbing lotion on. How are you going to learn that if no one's ever taught you?

Corean Canty (30:05)
Right

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (30:13)
Well, I should have sought it out. How could you seek out something you've never heard of before? If I've never heard of sushi, how could I go seek out a sushi restaurant? That doesn't make sense. But like, that's what people tell themselves that they should know this nebulous category of things they've never heard of before. We have to be careful of thinking we can do it ourselves or even that it's

advantageous to try. It's also not advantageous to be perfect. Being perfect is ridiculous. It's not.

Corean Canty (30:35)
advantageous to try. It's also not advantageous to be perfect. Being is ridiculous. It's not

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (30:42)
attractive or interesting is not viable or feasible. It's not possible. It's not penetrative. It's it's nothing useful. Like my quirks are so important. They're so interesting. They're so useful. Like my brilliance is flawed and that's great. Like I love that, you know? And so like, I think really coming

Corean Canty (30:42)
attractive or interesting. It's not viable or feasible. It's not possible. It's not penetrative. It's It's nothing useful. Like my quirks are so important. They're so interesting. They're so useful. Like my brilliance is flawed. And it's great. I love that. You know, and so like, I think really

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (31:04)
into a self-awareness that you can't do it all. You shouldn't want to, that you're not perfect and you don't want to be.

Corean Canty (31:09)
Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (31:10)
that you get tired and that you need to build a system around.

Corean Canty (31:13)
And then there's the other side of it where I felt like this for a long time, especially in corporate from having that conditioning was it's just faster if I do it myself. Well, it's not actually faster if you do it yourself because you are only one person. So if you're doing everything you have to, you'll get

three of the 10 things done in a day. So you're not going to be able to get the whole list.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (31:33)
That's what about to say.

It's well, and again, this is that independent woman syndrome, right? Is it faster one time today for one single task to do it yourself? If I need to schedule a client, is it faster for me to just ask the client what time they want to meet and just go and zoom and make the meeting? Possibly. But over time,

The amount of time I spend doing it myself every time is way more than the time it would have taken to invest in showing somebody one time. So yeah, maybe I saved 10 minutes today, but I'm losing that 10 minutes over. I'm it compounds.

Corean Canty (31:59)
Right. Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (32:17)
And so, so important for us to delegate, hire somebody I've hired wrong. I've hired bad. I've hired at the wrong price. Hire.

Corean Canty (32:17)
Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (32:26)
Anyway, y'all give these broke down no good me and chance after chance after chance. So don't get rid of your VA that fast, sis. Your puppy dog can chewed up 10 pair of your shoes and you ain't took that pet to the pound. You still love that puppy dog. That puppy dog told you your good shoes. That cat clawed up your couch.

So we patient with everything by ourselves. Everyone gives grace by us and I just, there's no way to live. I'm the most important person in my life other than Jesus. So yeah, I'm going to give myself some grace.

Corean Canty (32:48)
So we face it with everything but ourselves. Everyone gives grace but us. There's no way to live. I'm the most important person in our life. So yeah, I'm such an

important person. And it's like I'm constantly coaching and teaching people that you have to fill your cup first. Because then if you have an empty cup, you're pouring from nothing. You have to pour from the overflow. And you can't pour from the overflow if you don't.

Put yourself first and think about yourself first and take care of yourself first. That's how you do more good in the world, not the other way around.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (33:22)
I agree.

Corean Canty (33:24)
Yeah. So you said something, said it a little bit ago when you talking about perfectionism, about your quirks. And we've talked about this concept that it's okay to be unusual. And I know that's something that you really believe in. Tell me a little bit more about that.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (33:40)
Yeah.

Listen, I think that the best thing you can do is be unusual. And thankfully we all have it. We just try to hide it. But I think that our lived experiences are so important. For instance, I cannot relate to imposter syndrome. I have never personally experienced it. I really think I'm excellent. Truly.

Corean Canty (33:45)
best thing you can do is be unusual. And thankfully we all have it. We just try to hide it. But I think that our lived experiences are so important. For instance, I cannot relate to imposter syndrome. I have never personally experienced it. I really think I'm excellent. Truly.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (34:05)
I have like unabashed self-confidence. My parents poured into me. My grandparents called me a genius. They told me when I was five that people

Corean Canty (34:06)
I have like unabashed self-confidence. My parents poured into me. My grandparents called me a genius. They told me when I was five,

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (34:14)
would be intimidated by my intellect and that people would try to bully me. So because of my upbringing and the way that my folks were, I really never settled into I'm not good enough to do something or I'm not able to do something, right? That makes me very unusual with people. A lot of people have a soundtrack of self-doubt from

Corean Canty (34:14)
people would be intimidated by my intellect and people would try to bully me. Because of my upbringing and the way that my folks were, I really never settled into I'm not good enough to do something or I'm not able to do something, right? That makes me very unusual with people. A lot of people have a soundtrack of self doubt from

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (34:33)
somebody who meant well, but place fears into their head, right? And I used to think that this was a bad thing, that I would be unrelatable to people or that people would think that I was

Corean Canty (34:33)
somebody who meant well, but place fears into their head, right? And I used to think that this was a bad thing, that I would be unrelatable to people or that people would think that I was.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (34:43)
arrogant or cocky or inhuman or infallible that I thought that I was better than them because I haven't experienced these things. But I have had so many people say, Natalie, the way that you are unapologetic about yourself.

Corean Canty (34:44)
Arrogant or cocky or inhuman or infallible I thought that I was better than them because I haven't experienced these things But I have had so many people say Natalie the way that you are unapologetic about yourself

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (34:57)
Help me in this bad time. The way that you feel about your mom, help me rekindle my relationship with my mother. The way that you feel about sales and you're detached from whether people buy or not and you don't take it personally, help me do a six figure launch. The

Corean Canty (34:58)
Help me in this bad time the way that you feel about your mom Help me rekindle my relationship with my mother the way that you feel about sales and you're detached from whether people buy or not and you don't take it Help me do a six-figure lunch

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (35:13)
thing that I thought would make me very set apart and unrelatable is the thing that people love about me.

Corean Canty (35:13)
The thing that I thought would make me very set apart and unrelatable is the thing that people love about me,

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (35:20)
Right. have an unusual temper to my voice. I'm louder than most women and I have a deeper voice than a lot of women too. I thought when I launched the podcast that nobody would listen to it. I'm like, seriously? Between sounding country, between being loud. Like I don't mind being gregarious. I'm not going to speak lower or not laugh as loudly so that you can feel comfortable

Corean Canty (35:21)
right? I have an unusual temper to my voice. I'm louder than most women and I have a deeper voice than a lot of women too. I thought when I launched the podcast that nobody would listen to it. I'm like, seriously? Between sounding country, between being loud? I don't mind being gregarious. I'm not going to speak lower or not laugh as loudly so that you can feel that.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (35:41)
with me. I'm just not going to do it. People go, Natalie, I love your podcast. I bend your podcast. I'm do a hundred episodes of your podcast.

That's incredible. You know, like just because I have some of these, I'm saddened when people try to hide their uniqueness. And I blame the beauty industry, specifically plastic surgery for this, because there were studies that were done that people who had more symmetrical faces were viewed as more universally attractive. And when you look at people who the world says are very attractive, Beyonce, Leonardo DiCaprio, those people have

Corean Canty (35:52)
I'm saddened when people try to hide their uniqueness and I blame the beauty industry, specifically plastic surgery for this because there were studies that were done that people who had more symmetrical faces were viewed as more universally attractive.

Look at people who the world says are very attractive. Beyonce, Leonardo DiCaprio. people

have really symmetrical faces, right? Their eyes are in a certain position in relation to their skull, right? You can put a sketch of a perfect face and their face is all aligned with that standard. And over time you've seen plastic surgery kind of become common, but it's actually really common to get worse with that plastic surgery. And in the 70s and 80s,

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (36:17)
very symmetrical faces, right? Their eyes are in a certain position in relation to their skull, right? You can put a sketch of a perfect face and their faces all align with that standard. And over time you've seen plastic surgery kind of become a commonplace. It's actually really common to meet a person who's had plastic surgery. And in the seventies and eighties and nineties,

Corean Canty (36:39)
Right

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (36:39)
you basically had to be a celebrity. Like it was incredibly uncommon.

Right? There were no middle-class people. There weren't school teachers with BBLs and it just did not exist. Right? And so now everyone's marching towards this one standard of beauty. It's very small waist, very big butt. It's no hip dip. It's very pointy chin. It's fillers in the cheek and it's a very arched eyebrow and it's a very pushed forward hairline and it's very full hair and

everyone has to look the same way. And there's carbon, it's carbon copy beauty.

Corean Canty (37:07)
Everyone has to look the same way and it's carbon copy beauty.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (37:14)
Right. And that's what I feel like people are trying to do with their insides as well. They're trying to conform to what they think is successful. So just like there's a beauty standard, I think that there's a success standard. And I think people think that they have to be white, male, and tall. Or I think people think they have to be outgoing, extroverted, and well-spoken. They have to be Obama and have gone to Harvard. Right. I think people think, you know,

Corean Canty (37:14)
Right? And that's what I feel like people are trying to do with their insides as well. They're trying to conform to they think is successful. just like there's a beauty standard, I think that there's a success standard. People think that they have to be white, male, and tall. Or I think people think they have to be outgoing, extroverted, and well-spoken. And if you're a mama and have gone to Harvard, I think you know.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (37:36)
the way that I am is not good enough. Right. But I have acne. I have hyperpigmentation.

Corean Canty (37:36)
The way that I am is not good enough, right? I have acne, have hyperpigmentation,

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (37:42)
I have natural three C four A hair. have stretch marks. have acne and moles, right? I have a double chin. I do not follow the standard of this is the only way that you can be beautiful. But because I show up anyway, I am able to overcome the stigma. I don't want people to think the

Corean Canty (37:42)
I have natural 3C4A hair, I have stretch marks, have acne and moles, right? I have a double chin. I do not follow the standard of this is the only way that you can be beautiful. But I'm gonna show up anyway, I am able to overcome the stigma. I don't want people to think.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (38:04)
only reason I watch Natalie is because of how made up and perfect she looks. Cause at that point we've missed the plot.

Corean Canty (38:04)
Right, right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (38:11)
Like I can look a lot sexier in that look right now. That was just the name of the game. This was a sexy show. I could have got a silk press and I could have showed up late and I could have put on a sequined gown and we could have done the whole thing standing and you could see my body and all of that. But why? But why? And I think we could be more in tune with what God gave us.

Corean Canty (38:24)
right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (38:32)
I truly believe that God would not leave me talentless. Right? If you look at literature,

Corean Canty (38:33)
Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (38:39)
If you look at the ecosystem, there are predators and they're prey. There is no animal considered prey that doesn't have a defense mechanism. Right? God gave certain animals camouflage and certain animals have incredible speed. They can swim away. They can run away. Right? There's the giraffe that can see everything

Corean Canty (39:00)
Everything in the

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (39:01)
in the planes because of his long neck. Nothing is just a sitting duck, even plankton, even algae, even seaweed.

Everything in the ocean has a way to get away from creditors, right? So no way would I be put here to just be pray. No way would I be put here to not have any kind of skill or talent or gifts to overcome whatever my idiosyncrasies are. We make our mistake thinking that

Corean Canty (39:10)
Right

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (39:24)
somebody else has something else we need to be successful. If you need it to be successful, it's already in you. You already have it. God wouldn't say, you you, but I'm I'm a force you.

Corean Canty (39:24)
Somebody else has something else we need to be successful. If you need it to be successful, it's already in you. Yes You you but I'm gonna force you

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (39:36)
to be like them in order for you to get the blessing for you. That doesn't even make any sense. So we got to stop thinking if only I were better spoken, if only I were taller, if only I were thinner, if only I were funnier, if only I were, well, I wish I had charisma like you Natalie. I don't have no damn charisma. I was a late bloomer.

Corean Canty (39:36)
to be like them. Yeah

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (39:54)
Okay. I have no damn charisma. Who has charisma? Me. That is comical. This is so funny to me. That's been three hours a day under a

Corean Canty (39:54)
Okay, who has charisma me that is comical is so funny to me. That's been three hours a day under

a bed or reading books. I still play the Sims. It's funny when people like you have all this. They totally will Smith or something. I'm like, baby, baby, I just run my mouth on the internet. do. That's people see me. And so what would happen if you just

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (40:04)
Bedford reading books. I still play the Sims. It's so funny when people are like, you have all this, they talking about Will Smith or something. I'm like, baby, baby, I just run my mouth on the internet. do not have charisma. That's how people see me. And so what would happen if you decided

that you have the same amount of skill as the person you admire and you spent your time cultivating it instead of.

Corean Canty (40:24)
Right. Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (40:31)
Wishing and hoping you have what somebody else had like what would happen if you coveted your gift the

way you covet other people's gifts

Corean Canty (40:39)
Right. And showed up that way. I coach a lot of TEDx speakers, lot of executives and founders on finding their voice. And I feel like one of the things I coach the most on is stop trying to do the should talk, right? You should talk about this because everyone else is talking about it. I should do my talk this way, especially when I'm doing presence coaching, because I've done improv for a long time. Yeah, I might embody different characters on the stage, but when I'm a natural speaker, I'm quiet and grounded. I'm just naturally that way.

and I don't go on stage trying to be the loud speaker because my voice doesn't even really get that loud. Like I have to get really angry for me to even be able to get a level of volume. Like you have to really make me mad for me to find somewhere in my voice box that high volume. It is.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (41:22)
Good for you. I wish

I'm loud when I'm not angry. so people like read it. They're like, why are you so mad? I'm like, who's mad? But people read loud.

Corean Canty (41:26)
People like reading.

People read loud. Right. But then it's like everyone's,

everyone's like trying to be like someone else because they think they see a measure of success on the internet or when you're in front of someone and feeling this level of confidence. But for me, a lot of it was I'm just old enough not to care anymore. Right? Like I went through the times of being younger and self doubt or trying to fit into the box and corporate because I felt like I have to make this money to raise my kids and build this life and check the box and do all the things. And I did it.

got to be C-Sweet and I was like, well this ain't it. So let me just be, let me just, you know, and then I see my mom at the end of her life and it's like, there is a such thing as too late. There's things she actually can't do because her brain and her body won't let her and she just won't be able to do it this lifetime. And so all of those things, it's like, let me just show up today as myself because carrying the weight of trying to be everyone else is too heavy. It just holds you down.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (42:04)
Is this it?

Yeah.

Corean Canty (42:33)
And when you're yourself, you give permission for others to be themselves. And we forget about that too. We forget about that, you know, and like, I, I look forward to continuing to step.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (42:33)
Yeah.

We forget about that, you know? And like, I look forward to continuing to step more

into what I'm called to be. And I look forward to doing more with less, you know? People use social media to grow, but social media is a decaying platform. It's like putting a banana on a counter and peeling it and then wondering why it's rotten in three days. It just doesn't hold its value. And so if you're a generative person like me and you feel

Corean Canty (42:48)
I look forward to doing more with less. People use social media to grow, but social media is a decaying platform. It's like putting a banana on a counter and peeling it and then wondering why it's rotten.

And so if you're a generative person like me and you feel

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (43:08)
empowered and uplifted and energized when you create things, then social media might work just fine and you'll be happy for a long time. But if you're like most people, right? Where the constant creation runs you down, then why don't you have a book? Why don't you have a podcast? Why don't you write blog posts? Why don't you use SEO? Why don't you, you know what I mean? Like do things that, that have a

Corean Canty (43:09)
empowered and uplifted and energized when you create things, then social media might work just fine and you'll be happy for a long time. But if you're like most people, right, when constant creation runs you down, then why don't you have a book? Why don't you have a podcast? Why don't you write blog posts? Why don't you use SEO? Why don't you, you know what I mean, like do things that have-

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (43:34)
shelf life that is more extended.

Corean Canty (43:34)
shelf life and it's more extended

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (43:37)
It's because they're trying to be like the guru who uses social media. Right? So what I would love is for people, you know, especially when you're listening to this, where are the things in your life that, that run you down? Maybe it's cooking dinner. Cooking dinner is not pleasant for me. I don't like cooking, but after having meetings at nine and 10 and 12 and two and three and four, and my husband gets home at six 15, I like to greet him at the door.

Corean Canty (43:37)
it's because they're trying to be like the guru who uses social media right where are the things that your life that that runs you down maybe it's cooking dinner cooking dinner is not pleasant for me i don't mind cooking but after having meetings at nine and ten and twelve and two and three and four and my husband gets home at six fifteen i like to bring him at the door

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (44:03)
And

I like dinner to be ready. I don't want my husband to have to wait to eat when he's already worked the 10 hour shift with a really early lunch break. Right? But like the thought of me having to cook this meal on this timeline, baby, I wasn't feeling it. So I paid for meal prep. My cleaner came today and cleaned my whole home. She's going to clean it while I'm out of town on vacation. These are things I've had to concede and say, I can't be a housewife and be a full-time entrepreneur who is the bread winner.

Corean Canty (44:04)
I don't want my husband to have to wait to eat when he's already worked a 10 hour shift or eat lunch break. But you thought of me having to cook meal on this time when I wasn't doing so I paid for meal prep. I cleaned up today and cleaned my whole home. She's going to clean it while I'm out of town on vacation. These are things I've had to concede and say I can't be a housewife and be a full-time entrepreneur who is the bread winner.

Right. Right. Right. Right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (44:31)
It just can't happen that way. Something's got to give. He works full time. I work full time. We need some help. And so many women, especially black women, ill, you let someone else cook for your husband. And I'm like, you act like she butt naked in my house doing it. Like she cooked it. She cooked it at her crib. And I went and picked up the meals and containers like he's never even met this woman. Trust me. I doubt he's. If all it took, if that's the case, then y'all don't go to restaurants, right? It's going to arrest.

letting somebody else cook for your man. Like we have to be

careful with the idea that all of the domestic duties have to fall on us or we're not a woman. Right? I remember when I told somebody, I was like, have a housekeeper and they were like, ew, that sounds like slave labor. Well, no, she's paid.

Corean Canty (45:06)
Right, Right,

she's paid and that's how she takes care of her family, right?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (45:16)
Exactly.

I'm like, so it's absolutely not, I'm not holding her against her will to, to do something, you know? And I think we have to be really careful with pushing things off that are imperative to our mental health. My mental health cannot sustain trying to run everything in my household. Well, trying to be a wife that's, that's present, trying to be an entrepreneur that's present saying yes to every opportunity, summits and bundles and.

Corean Canty (45:22)
Yeah

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (45:45)
I don't, I don't over commit myself anymore. You know, when people say, Hey, Nat, I thought we were supposed to meet. We're supposed

to meet next week. You know, you had said, duh, duh, duh, I'm sorry. I only have room for one coffee chat a month. only do two podcasts guests a month and I'm booking out until July. So you want to talk about July? more than open. I ain't gonna lie to you in July. Maybe something, my doctor's appointment, maybe something has come up and we have to move it one day in July to a date in August. And if

Corean Canty (45:54)
I'm sorry. I only have room for one coffee chat a month. I only do two podcast guests a month and I'm booking out into July. Right. Want to talk about July? more than open. And I ain't gonna lie to you. In July, maybe something, my doctor's appointment, maybe something. Right. Move it one day in July to a date in August. And if

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (46:12)
That's not on their timeline. Again, I invite people invoke your own boundaries. If your boundaries only allow people to book 30 days out, then

Corean Canty (46:13)
that's not on their timeline, again, I invite people in both your own boundaries. Your boundaries only allow people to book 30 days out.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (46:21)
how about you reach out to me in June and I can see if July could still work at that point. Or maybe I could refer you to someone who does similar work to me, but that has the capacity right now to be able to fulfill your request on your timeline.

Corean Canty (46:21)
then how about you reach out to me in June and I can see if you like it still work at that point. Or maybe I could refer you to someone who does similar work to me, but that has the capacity right now to be able to fulfill your request on your timeline.

Right, right, right. think- I know that feels hard, but people love honesty. I someone who's gonna write me, hey, now I'm doing anthology and at this time I'm unable to support, but I appreciate it.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (46:37)
And that feels hard for us, but like people love honesty. had someone write me, Hey, now I'm doing anthology and Hey, at this time I'm unable to support, but I appreciate you.

And here's, here's 10 other black women who talk about money and wealth and sales that you might be able to my spot with. And she was like, this is so kind. I wasn't even expecting you to refer me to people. She referred someone. They got the opportunity. They thanked me profusely because this was a lesser known influencer who doesn't get invited to these types of opportunities. So here I get invited to a hundred opportunities a year. And here she barely ever gets invited to these opportunities. So I got to be a blessing to someone else.

Corean Canty (46:51)
And here's here's 10 other black women who talk about money and wealth and sales. And she was like, Oh, this is so kind. wasn't even expecting you to refer me to She heard someone, they got the opportunity. They thank me profusely because this was a lesser known influence. get invited to these types of opportunities. Here I get invited to 100 opportunities a year. And here she barely ever gets invited to these opportunities. So I got to be a blessing to someone

else. And I got to hold my bound.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (47:18)
And I got to hold my boundary and

I still got to preserve my relationship with the original asker a lot better than if I would have over committed and then not been able to do what I said I was going to do. I would have harmed that relationship with her. I would have harmed my relationship with myself all under the guise of, don't want to let someone down. You can only let someone down if you burn out and quit. If unapologetic wealth fails because Natalie did too much.

Corean Canty (47:19)
And I still got to preserve my relationship with the original asper a lot better than if I would have over committed and then not been able to do what I said I was going to do. I would have harmed that relationship with her. I would have formed my relationship with myself. Right. All under the guise of I don't want to let someone down. You could only let someone down if you burn out and quit. If unapologetic wealth fails because Natalie did too

much and mentally and physically she was just unable to continue.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (47:45)
and mentally and physically she was just unable to continue. That

would actually let down several generations of people who could have been wealthy. There's trillions of dollars at stake in my impact. And I think once you realize that, once you decide to yourself, have trillion dollar legacy, you would do a hell of a lot more to protect it. I think a lot of us just play too small. We think, we business six figures.

Corean Canty (47:49)
That would actually let down several generations of people who could have been wealthy. There's trillions of dollars at stake in my impact. I think once you realize that, once you decide to yourself, have a trillion dollar legacy, you would do a hell of a lot more to protect it. I think a lot of us just play too small. think, oh, my is six figures.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (48:12)
That's not that much money. My business only has one employee. It's not that big, but the ripple effect of hundreds of persons

Corean Canty (48:12)
That's not having much money. My business is only has one employee. It's not that big. But the ripple effect, hundreds of

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (48:19)
imparting and doing that work is massive. And we have to look out for the future generations, not just the people who are alive right now in your pipeline right now, who might buy from you this weekend.

Corean Canty (48:32)
Right, right. I think to summarize a lot of the things that we've talked about, what's really important is number one, getting clear on the life that you want, understanding yourself and what you need to have a full cup and to energetically show up.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (48:42)
Yeah.

Corean Canty (48:48)
to your life each day and also recognizing that you are enough right now with who you are. But money does help. Money does help. So educate yourself on what it means to build real wealth and what it means to set yourself up and your family up for a future that you can't necessarily plan for.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (49:14)
Agree.

Corean Canty (49:15)
Yeah, yeah. I have a few questions. This has been so great, but I always have to end it with a few questions that I think are just fun so people can get to know the guests because I mean, the amount of nuggets you've dropped, I can't wait for people to hear the episode. So they get to know you a little bit more. What is a small luxury that you do that you never feel guilty about enjoying?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (49:46)
Evening tea. I'm kind of a connoisseur. I have maybe 40 different types of tea in my home and I'm... Yeah, I have a real wisdom and I have the kettle, the kind of steeps that I have the really fancy mugs and I wrap in my little blanket and I sit on my heating pad and I turn off my phone and I just enjoy my tea and my honey and my lemon and I have a little station. So, I always, always, that's my evening.

Corean Canty (49:46)
evening tea.

maybe 40 different types of teeth in my home. Yeah, I'm the same. I have a whole tea drawer. Oh, Yes.

you

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (50:14)
ritual. hasn't been a day in quite some time, maybe three years since I have had my, that's not true. When I had surgery in hospital, unfortunately I missed my T-Ridual. But other than that, that's a good, that's a good reason. And had I been thinking I would have got there to bring my T-Station to the hospital, but unfortunately I wasn't thinking about that at the time. But yeah, I mean I take T when I travel. Like I'm that person.

What kind of tea they're gonna have at the hotel, I know if I'm gonna like it, something to pack

my own kind of situation. So I never feel guilty about that. I also never feel guilty about buying skincare, even if I'm not disciplined enough to use it.

Corean Canty (50:47)
I never feel guilty about that. I also never feel guilty about my skin care. It's not just good enough to me.

That part, I do have products that I haven't tried yet that I'm very excited about.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (50:57)
Yeah, but I'm going

to. But I'm going to. I'm going to use them. It's going to happen. I just forget that I have one face. So I have like seven cleansers, four toners, seven moisturizers. Like I have those like for the summer and for the winter when you're dry, when you're oily, when you're under period, when you're not. So like it's a thing. I took pictures of all of it and I'm going to get Chad GPT to like build me a simplified, luxury routine.

Corean Canty (51:03)
have one face. So I'm like seven boys. Seven boys driving.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (51:24)
That way I could just put them all like Post-it notes in the bathroom. And then based on how much time I have, yeah. Cause I think it's really outright out of mind. Cause I bought these like fancy like over the door organizers and like shelves for the bathroom. so I used to be one of those people where everything was on the counter and it was really cluttered. I was like, well, this is not, this is not bougie. I could do better. But now that it's all packed away neatly, I kind of forget what I own.

Corean Canty (51:27)
Yes. In the bathroom and then based on how much time I have. Yeah, I think it's really.

Right.

Right, right. I'm so so relate to that. And it's so important because we don't we forget the power of little luxuries and simple pleasures. It can make such a difference. Okay, so what is your favorite way to spend an unexpected free hour?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (52:10)
Hmm, unexpected free hour. I'm gonna watch cartoons. I'm gonna watch Scooby-Doo or Rugrats or Hey Arnold. I'm gonna watch a nostalgic show. If I wanna watch adults, I might watch Friends or I Love Lucy or Cheers.

Corean Canty (52:23)
childhood yeah

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (52:34)
My mom didn't let me watch like current television. So I watched like the Dick Van Dyke show at Mary Tollard Moore and taxi. Like if it was black and white, yeah, I was able to watch that. But usually cartoons, you get you like a bowl of cereal. I know y'all listening, thinking, ew cereal. I eat cereal. Okay, damn it. Me and my almond milk. Go get down with the cereal on the couch, watch cartoons. How about this? It's not going be anything that looks like work. Like if you no show on me, I'll wait.

Corean Canty (52:42)
Yeah

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (53:03)
When you tell me you're running late, I'll wait 15 minutes. If you don't communicate with me at all, I'm waiting 10. Either way, if we booked for an

Corean Canty (53:11)
for an hour, I'm spending them 55 minutes downstairs on my very nice white powdery black out because it just is so important for us to get our mind out of our day to day. Yes. And cartoons really light up a different part of your brain. Entertainment and nostalgia.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (53:11)
hour, I'm sending them 55 minutes downstairs on my very nice white powdery barn couch and I'm pulling out cartoons because it just, it's so important for us to get our mind out of our day to day. And cartoons really light up a whole different part of your brain in terms of like entertainment and nostalgia in a way that

EV won't do. yep.

Corean Canty (53:35)
Yeah,

I love that. mean, a big huge play advocate. I did a whole TEDx on why we should play more. So anything that can bring fun and joy. Yeah, fun and joy.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (53:42)
should watch it. I'm like, Angie, I'm like... People think I'm

crazy. They're just like, why are you an adult that watches cartoons? You know there are whole cartoon networks devoted for adults, right?

Corean Canty (53:52)
There is and my family watches anime. Everybody in the house is like super. It's like the most gruesome cartoons ever, right?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (53:56)
That's what I'm saying. I'm like, you know, well, what do you know?

Like most cartoons are targeted towards adults. Actually, at least they're marketed to adults because if the adult doesn't say yes, the kid's not watching it. Like you forget all cartoons are marketed to adults because children don't buy cable. They don't buy televisions. They don't use remotes. have to think here. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

Corean Canty (54:09)
Yes, the kids not watching it. All cartoons are marketed to adults because children don't like able. You know, by television, they don't need remote to think here. yeah, yeah.

What's something that you've started saying yes to more often recently that's made your life better?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (54:32)
more sleep.

Corean Canty (54:33)
Mmm, that one.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (54:35)
I have finally admitted that I need more sleep than the average person. And I have finally stopped being angry about it. Cause I have spent a lot of time angry that I need nine or 10 hours of sleep like a newborn. Cause that just felt stupid when I was 36. I did not understand why my body was not managing the seven hours it was giving, but it just, I, I again,

Corean Canty (54:42)
Stop being angry. I am spent a lot of time angry that I need nine or ten hours of sleep like a newborn. That just felt stupid when I was 36. I did not understand why my body was not managing the seven hours it was giving. it just, again,

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (55:03)
Humans have limitations and idiosyncrasies. And when I sleep more and I get restorative sleep, I'm talking pitch

Corean Canty (55:03)
humans have limitations and when I sleep more and I get restorative sleep, I'm talking.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (55:10)
black dark room, eye mask, weighted blanket, calming sounds, lavender pillow mist. I do so much better the next day. And so I finally just had to say, you know what, what is an hour of something that I can pull out of my day so that I can get in bed an hour earlier.

Corean Canty (55:10)
Black Dark World, I mask, I wear a mask, I a calming sounds, lavender pillow, I do so much better the next day. And so I finally just had to say, know what, what is an hour or something that I can pull out of my day, that I can get in bed an hour earlier

and be able to get that restorative thing. So I've been saying yes to that. I've also been saying yes to health. I'm struggling with asking people.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (55:29)
and be able to get that restorative thing. So I've been saying yes to that. I've also been saying yes to help more. I'm struggling with asking people for

help. I remember I was traveling and I had sprained my ankle and it really hurt. And I didn't have a brace and I was rushing to a plane and et cetera. And my bag was heavy because they made me check my roller bag at the gate because the plane was so small.

Corean Canty (55:40)
I remember I was traveling and I had sprained my ankle and it really hurt and I didn't have a brace and was rushing to a plane and etc. And my bag was heavy because they made me check my roller bag at the gate because the plane was so small.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (55:59)
So normally I have my personal item on my roller bag so I can just push it and have inertia. But since they made me gate check my bag, I'm carrying the duffel and it literally felt like it was 20 pounds. I had

Corean Canty (55:59)
So normally I have my personal item on my roller bag so I can just push it and have inertia. But since they made me gate check my bag, I'm carrying the duffel and it literally felt like it was 20 pounds.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (56:10)
like a 16 inch laptop in it. It was so incredibly heavy. I just wanted to sit on the floor in the airport and cry. Like I was so tired and I was like, I the guy like driving up in the car and old Natalie would have just limped to the gate. Amazing race style. And I was just like, sir.

Corean Canty (56:10)
had like a 16 inch laptop in it. It was so incredibly heavy. I just wanted to sit on the floor in the airport and cry. I was so tired. I was like, the guy driving up in the car and old Nazley would have just left to the gate, amazing race style. And I was just like,

sir, is this only for persons with handicaps? Like am I able to do this as a long able-bodied person? Is there any way you can help me? He was like, you're at gate A, you're at gate

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (56:28)
Is this only for persons with handicap? Like, am I able to get on this as a young able-bodied person? Is there any way you can help me? He was like, you're at gate A, you have to get to gate E

and it's this far walk. And I was like, I just can't. He's like, let me drive you the other way and get you on the shuttle. And he drove me to the shuttle and I got on the shuttle and I caught the plane. And like a year ago, I would not have asked. I would have muscled through somehow, some way on the bad ankle with the heavy bag.

Corean Canty (56:54)
And this time

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (56:57)
tired, hungry, dehydrated. And this time I said, I admit it. I am physically not in a good spot to do this thing.

Corean Canty (57:00)
I said I admit it. I am physically not in good spot to do this thing.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (57:06)
And like, didn't beat myself up about it. I came home and was just like, okay, Matt, we need a better travel plan. I literally asked Chad GPT, how can I prevent this in the future? And it was like, if you are in a small city and the planes are going to be small and it's going to force you to gate check anyway, you might as well bring a check bag. Because then you could put some of the heavy crap from your

Corean Canty (57:07)
didn't beat myself up about it. came home and was just like, okay, Matt, we need a better travel plan. I literally asked at GPT, how can I prevent this in the future? And it was like, if you are in a small city and the planes are going to be small and it's going to force you to gate check anyway, you might as well bring a check bag. Because then you can some of the heavy crap from

your personal item into the check bag and at least you'd be able to travel really light. Right. I was like, that is so freaking smart.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (57:26)
personal item into the check bag. And at least you'd be able to travel really light if you lose your character. I was like, that is so fricking smart.

So like asking for help and being open to like not making it personal, not making it Natalie, you didn't plan well. You weren't very smart for this to have happened for it to been like, you know what? I'm human and I'm allowed to get support and I'm using all of the mannerism, all of the manners of support for me now. yep.

Corean Canty (57:34)
And

most people want to help and it's actually a health benefit to help someone else. So you're both getting the benefit out of it. Yeah.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (57:59)
I'm not here. I've read that before. And I mean, I probably help way more people than

my brain is cognitively aware of.

Corean Canty (58:04)
is cognitively aware

of. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. We do. All right, so if your life had a soundtrack, what would the title track be right now?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (58:24)
What is that Glorilla song? Oh, that is going to drive me crazy. That is going to drive me...

Corean Canty (58:30)
I know what you're

talking about, but I don't know what the title of it is.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (58:33)
I know I'm like, Oh, I know. Right. Like, I know I am glow. Okay. How about you just put the whole CD. I like when I tell you I am Southern unapologetic. I love that glow is her. She don't let the industry try to change her into no vixen. She tatted and bold and you know what I mean? I'm a super

Corean Canty (58:44)
Right.

Get it.

I love that. love that. Final question. How do

you remember to live?

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (59:02)
Glorilla fan and I mean, Tennessee is just one state over. It would definitely be the glorious city.

I put it on my calendar.

Corean Canty (59:18)
Mmm.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (59:20)
I have decided that I am not

going to wait to try to remember to put import, fun things in my life. We schedule everything else. So now I schedule naps and I schedule, you know, cuddles with my husband. I schedule like, like coloring, you know, like things on my calendar. So that way, you know, it's fun going to your calendar and being like, crap, I five appointments. That's scary. And looking at the appointments, we're like, girl, two of these are with you.

Corean Canty (59:26)
Everything else

like coloring.

That way, you know it's fun going to your calendar and being like, oh crap, I have five appointments, that's scary. And looking at the appointments, we're like, girl, two of these are with

you. Two of these are with yourselves. You know, like, I feel better, right? I'm just as important as the people I'm with. you know, a friend and Yeti Eason told me once that the way to overcome overwhelm is to so actively schedule underwhelm. That has stuck with me for years.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (59:47)
Do these reports with yourself. You know, like now I feel better, right? Because like I'm as important as the people I'm meeting with. And you know, a friend and Yeti Eason told me once that the way to overcome overwhelm is to proactively schedule underwhelm. That has stuck with me for years

because it's true. You know, we fill empty space, empty space like a vacuum. It has to be filled with something.

Corean Canty (1:00:08)
Because it's true. know, we feel empty space, empty space, like a vacuum. It has to be filled with

something. Right. If you carry a big purse, you'll fill it up with stuff. If you give yourself 10 years to finish something, you'll fill 10 years up with So our brains want to fill that blank space. And so if we don't fill it with things that edify us, other people will fill it. Exactly. The weather, the government, the mailman.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (1:00:17)
Right? If you carry a big purse, you'll fill it up with stuff. If you give yourself 10 years to finish something, you'll fill 10 years up with stuff. So our brains want to fill that blank space. And so if we don't fill it with things that edify us, other people will, will fill it for us. Your kids, your spouse, your partner, the weather, the government, the mailman, people

Corean Canty (1:00:38)
people will find things to do, fundraisers and ads and social media to fill that space. So I beat it to it. make sure that

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (1:00:38)
will, find things to do, fundraisers and ads and social media to fill that space. So I beat it to it. I make sure that every

Corean Canty (1:00:47)
every single week, I have my ritual in the morning and ritual in evening. Every single week I put some meat in the morning that I don't want to forget to do that give me back some time and some joy during the day. I love that so much. Thank you so much for sharing.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (1:00:47)
Every week, you know, mean, have my ritual in the morning and ritual in the evening, but every single week I put some me appointments, things that I don't want to forget to do that give me back some time and some joy during the day.

Corean Canty (1:01:05)
your time and your energy and your wisdom with my audience. Tell the people where they can find you.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (1:01:13)
you can go to my beautiful website, unapologeticwealth.com, or you can follow my shenanigans on Facebook. I have the best Facebook page on the internet. I stack my organic content up against anybody. And I mean that with every fiber of my being is consistent and funny and consistently funny. So she will drop the link because you know, Facebook's old school. They don't have handles. You got to actually click the URL.

Corean Canty (1:01:21)
You do. Facts. Facts. Right, right.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (1:01:41)
Well,

when I tell you, we help people make money, we help people make feel good about themselves. It's such an edifying, gratifying, positive. This is a gold standard in giving a damn about your community. Truly, truly a plus. So follow my a plus free Facebook content. Go to my website. If you're like, you know, I've been listening to Natalie and maybe there's some way that she can help me grow my business. I'd love for you to find out more about what we do.

Corean Canty (1:01:44)
Awesome.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (1:02:09)
And you can follow me on Instagram at unapologeticwealth.

Corean Canty (1:02:14)
Thank you so much.

Nat Bullen, Wealth Coach (1:02:16)
You're welcome.