Stop Waiting to Live: Why There IS Such a Thing as Too Late | Special Interview Episode

Summary 

In this special episode from the Age Has No Limit podcast, I share my journey from corporate leadership to intentional living, discussing how becoming my mother's caretaker taught me that there is such a thing as "too late." I open up about recovering from extreme burnout, discovering the importance of investing in ourselves, and finding joy in life's moments. The conversation explores how I've transformed my approach to leadership, well-being, and personal growth, leading to the creation of the Remember to Live podcast and my upcoming book.

Takeaways

• There is such a thing as "too late" - while it's never too late to dream, there can be a too late to do
• Healing from burnout requires learning to listen to your body's whispers before they become roars
• The power of community and relationships in aging well and maintaining quality of life
• Redefining success on your own terms rather than following societal "shoulds"
• Small, intentional shifts in daily life can lead to meaningful transformation
• Living fully doesn't require drastic changes - it's about being present in each moment
• The importance of scheduling connection time just as seriously as work meetings
• Age shouldn't limit how we experience joy - whether that's dancing until 4 AM or pursuing new dreams

Chapters

00:00 Leadership coach, culture influencer, podcast host.

03:39 There can be a too late to act.

09:19 Finding a way through work-life balance.

15:14 Remote work accommodates diverse personal responsibilities effectively.

21:43 Create tools for entrepreneurs to manage stress.

25:58 Yoga heightens body awareness and focus significantly.

28:44 Parent guilt about availability with adult children.

32:37 Balancing relationships alongside ambitious career pursuits.

37:25 BIPOC improv group offers corporate workshops.

41:05 Adults relearn improv rules; kids naturally improvise.

44:32 Overthinking and comparisons hinder self-discovery, and enjoyment.

50:19 Accountability partners enhance impact and accomplishment.

55:05 Purpose is about fully experiencing each day.

59:20 Listen, learn, live fully. Like and subscribe.

About Patrice Davis:

Patrice Davis is a mom of three, CEO of Grants Works Consulting and Ready Set Go Consult, travel enthusiast, and culture lover.  She's happily living a redesigned life and encourages you to do the same.

Website: grantsworks.com
Podcast: readysetgoconsult.com/age-has-no-limits

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Transcript

Corean:
Welcome to Remember to Live, where we explore the art of presence in an increasingly disconnected world. I'm Corine, your guide on this journey to living better. Through real conversations with real people living real lives, we uncover what happens when we stop performing our lives and start being fully present in them. Life doesn't wait for some day. Let's ditch the regrets and start showing up. So get cozy, grab your favorite warm drink, and let's dig in. Hey, y'all. This year already feels like a lot, and that can sometimes make us feel like, what's the point? We can lose our motivation and put things off that we really need to do for ourselves.

Corean:
Here's the thing. Life is gonna life. And if you've been here with me for a minute, you know I fully believe there is a such thing as too late and why it's so important to remember to live. So this week, I'm sharing a special episode. I was recently on my friend, Patrice Davis's podcast, age has no limit, where I shared how my mother's experience taught me to remember to live and birth this podcast, how extreme burnout that led to a medical crisis helped to slow me down and really remember what's important, how I healed from burnout, how that made me a better leader, and the limitless possibilities of living with intention. It's a good one. Let's dig in.

Patrice Davis:
Kareem Canty is a leadership coach, culture shaper, and podcast host. She brings over 20 years of corporate experience where she led marketing strategies for some of the world's largest brands, manage teams of all sizes, and coach leaders at every level. Her passion for building human centered organizations and shaping cultures that prioritize well-being has defined her career. Now as a leadership coach and advocate for impactful living, and we've gotta dig into what that is, Kareen dedicates her time to helping leaders find their voice, overcome fear, end out, and build workspaces that are engines of well-being, and success. I'm smiling because I just the just imagining an engine of well-being and workplace as an engine of well-being is is really, exciting. She embodies a no limit lifestyle. She takes bold steps to live the life she desires all while all while inspiring others to do the same. Kareen is also the host of the Remember to Live podcast, where she shares powerful insights on living with purpose and embracing change.

Patrice Davis:
Whether she's launching new services or guiding others to lead with impact, Kareen is proof that it's never too late to redefine your path and chase the life you truly want. Join me as I sit down with Coreen to discuss leadership, overcoming fear, and the limitless possibilities of living with intention. Coreen, welcome to the age has no limit podcast.

Corean:
Thank you, Patrice. I'm so excited to be here and have this conversation with you today.

Patrice Davis:
Yes. I'm excited to learn from you. So I follow you on LinkedIn. I read your posts, which I always, like, pause to scroll because I wanna make sure I read what you have to say. You wrote that you remember that there is such a thing as too late, and the only thing holding you back from living the life you want is your own fear and doubt. So as a result, you've come to that realization and you make sure that you take leaps. Why do you believe there is such a thing as too late?

Corean:
So I used to be one of those people that would constantly say, you know, it's never too late. It's never too late. It's never too late. You know, we hear that almost as a mantra until I became a caretaker to my mother and and watching her in real time live end of life regrets. And so it may never be too late to dream or to desire, but there is a too late to do. There is a time when maybe your body or your brain or a situation prevents you from doing the things that you kept putting on your someday list or your one day list. You know, those lists where you have when I get this title or when I've finished this career, when I all of these futuristic living situations. And then you look back and the time is gone.

Corean:
Right? And it's too late for a lot of things. And so just watching her, the fact that my father died when I was very young and he never even got to see me grow up really helps me think about living right now and the power of living and remembering to live the life while we're doing all of these things. Right? I really believe in putting the living back into making a living because we forget about that part.

Patrice Davis:
Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And I I like when you just made

Patrice Davis:
it very, very clear that, you know, it's never too late to dream and to have, you know, you know, imagine the things that you want. But when you actually may not have the physical

Patrice Davis:
abilities to be able to out you know, to live out those dreams, or to live the life you want, then, you know, that truly does limit you. It places limitations on you, and that's why you, of course, have to try to do it now for those of us who still have the, you know, physical capabilities to do it. So thanks for immediately making that clear. So what are some of the leaps that you took this year?

Corean:
I think this year is probably the year out of my entire adult life that I invested in myself the most. Like, invested in not only just my businesses, but, like, things I really wanted to do. And, you know, I've I've I was a single mom my whole career, and I've been a mom since I was in high school. So everything was always for my kids. And I wouldn't I would find a way for, like, my son to go to that super expensive, you know, ID tech camp. But for me to just take a course or to, you know, take a vacation or do something just for me, I'd be like, oh, I can't spend that money. I can't take that time. I can't figure it out.

Corean:
Right? And so now that my children are grown and I'm in this place of looking at my mom, it's like, no. Do the things you wanna do now. So I've invested the most in things I wanted to learn. I've taken some of the biggest trips just because I wanted to, not because there was a conference tied to it, or I'm celebrating someone else, or it's just I wanted to go do it. And so I think a lot of the leaps that I took this year were just leaps in giving myself permission to live and practice what I preach and do those things now.

Patrice Davis:
So the 2 quick follow ups to that. So I remember those $1800, ID tech tech camps. I I also, like, evaluate. I was like, should I really do this, or should I go to this other one that's so absolutely, I understand. And, you know, it was never a question about whether or not you should invest in in your child, but you're absolutely right. Thinking about spending that kind of money back then for myself would have been out of the question. So Mhmm. So I'm glad you brought that to your attention.

Patrice Davis:
Of the, like, trips that you've taken and the ways that you've invested in yourself, what do you think has been the most impactful?

Corean:
I think the most impactful was probably the trip I took earlier this year, which you're very familiar with, of going on a writing retreat because I've always loved to write. I thought I was gonna be a writer when my whole childhood and go to art school, and then I became a mom. And so I had to do the to be a responsible mom, you have to go get a corporate job, and you have to get a 401 k, and you can never make money doing art and all of the things. So I always found my creative outlets outside of whatever I should do. But this was the year I said, you know what? I'm going to really focus on putting myself in a beautiful location, spending a week where nobody can reach me, and get back to writing and get back to myself and reigniting my creativity in a way that I just never made time or space for before.

Patrice Davis:
Yeah. Yeah. And I'm so glad you brought that up because that tells me that you came to the retreat with an intention that goes beyond the writing. Obviously, giving yourself space and time to do it, but, also, it was tied to a bigger goal. And I'm thinking about when I went to the retreat, I was thinking, well, this is something I wanna do, and this is a task that helped me get to that thing. And, and I and as a result, I think you were you know, you have some wonderful results that came out of that retreat that you can probably share with us later if you'd like. But I I understand that now because I kept saying to myself, well, I'm gonna go back to the writing. I'm gonna go back to the writing.

Patrice Davis:
And I never really gave myself space and time to do that because I was always so busy doing other things. Mhmm. I'm gonna do that, though. Hopefully, before the end of the year, I'm gonna finish up with some other things. So really, really glad that you you pointed that out, that you were you've been very intentional, and it's actually leading you to accomplishing some other goals that you've always wanted, you know, you always, had. So tell us a little bit, though, about Coreen before she started being so intentional. Tell us a little bit about your corporate experience, your 20 years of corporate experience. The corporate highs, any lows that you wanna share?

Corean:
Yeah. And so being the double only in a lot of rooms throughout my corporate experience, you know, being the only woman, the only black woman

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Corean:
It really helped me realize that, you know, you just gotta kinda find a way. I feel like one of the things I got from my mother is is the grit of finding a way and making things happen. But a lot of it was because I wasn't doing it for me. Like, I never went into corporate saying, oh, I'm I'm doing this because I wanna climb the ladder because I wanna get a c suite job. I just wanted to be able to have a job that I could provide my kids the life that I wanted to provide them being a single mom. I wanna I I always kinda looked at my job as, well, this is good enough because it wasn't really the creative career I wanted, but it was adjacent because I spent my career in marketing and media and advertising. So there was some creativity in it. But I think what I learned the most about my corporate career is how much our work affects our lives.

Corean:
And so I quickly became a leader early on in my career. And my main focus has always been, how do I help my team and how I help the individuals who have access to me start to learn how to make the relationship with their employer a mutually beneficial relationship. How do I provide environments? Because I needed it as a single mom where we all could work together and be flexible in our time and our scheduling and doing it in whatever way I could because, you know, the system is the system. But I spent a lot of time pouring into people. And even though I ended up with a chief operating officer title, I didn't get there because I spent so much time focused on operations and spreadsheets. I got there because I focused on people's lives first and really sat down and understood, like, how do you wanna live your life? And a lot of people didn't know they had the the shoulds. And And I say, no. No.

Corean:
No. I wanna know how you how do you wanna spend your days? Like and I'd give a lot of people homework. And so I became known to, like, put time on Korean's calendar to talk about your life because it will change you. And so once we figured that out, then we could say, well, now let's align the things you do, not only with your strengths, but things you wanna do. Like, how can we get more joy out of work and more flexibility out of work? Because I understood that the ROI and the bottom line that all the companies cared about came from our people being well. And if you have a whole workforce of people who are stressed out, burnt out, unhappy, they can sit there for 90 hours. Mhmm. But the output is not gonna be quality, and nothing's gonna thrive.

Patrice Davis:
Yeah. So much to pick up on that. And because I'm thinking about a few things. Number 1, just thinking about, you know, one's you know, let's say, you know, you're having a meeting with 1 of your direct reports. And instead of talking about the things that one would expect, you know, how's this project coming along, what are your thoughts about the deadline, do you need any support from me, you're asking them to think about what they want from their lives. So I'm sure that that was just not only probably a shocker for them, but also it gave them an opportunity to really think about, you know, what they wanted. It also probably gave them, they were probably also interested more interested in helping the team succeed. I wonder if that that's one of the benefits of it as well.

Patrice Davis:
But, so, yeah, definitely, see the benefit of that because, interestingly, we just came from our staff retreat, our very first staff retreat. And it was the very first time that as a business owner, I thought about the culture I'm building, the team that we have, how we can elevate each other, just all the things outside of work. But I do also wanna pick up on something where you said that you basically you know, being in marketing and advertising, it's very, very deadline driven. I don't know if you and I talked about this. I also came from advertising. I used to be a media planner. Never made it up because I was like, I'm getting out here. It's it's it's way

Patrice Davis:
too much. It's a lot. It's a lot. And then

Patrice Davis:
I then I shifted from advertising to marketing, specifically international direct marketing. Then I was like, okay. I'm getting out of here. It's really deadline driven. How did you manage your career raising 2 boys? I think it was 2 boys. Right?

Patrice Davis:
A boy

Corean:
and a girl.

Patrice Davis:
Boy and a girl. Okay. Yeah. Raising your children as a single mom in such a deadline driven it's a very deadline driven, atmosphere. So

Patrice Davis:
It is.

Patrice Davis:
That's what I remember. I was like, you know, I'm I so I would love to find out, you you know, what were some of the things that you did? You did point out that, yes, you spoke with your team to make sure that your everybody was on on the same page. But anything specific any specific things that you'd like to share that you did individually to be able to manage that so well?

Corean:
Yeah. I think well, the first half of my career, I I was in agencies. Right? And so even though there's a lot of hours, there is there there is an environment agencies that are kinda flexible. So there there's years where it's like 6 o'clock. I gotta go pick James up from day care and bring him back to the agency. Right? And so he has these memories of, like, being in the agency and everybody giving me candy and doing these things, which in hindsight, like, we should have been at home eating dinner and doing things. But I would bring him back to work and make sure that he was with me and and finish the work I needed to do. But I realized as as I kind of got more up the ranks that that wasn't sustainable.

Corean:
And you have to help people understand how to manage their time better because I might have been at work until late at night, but half of my day was spent not working. Right? When you're in an office, you have spent a lot of time getting interrupted throughout the day and having people to stop at your desk or talk. Or I remember having a conversation with one of my bosses. And when I was done with my work, I would leave or salaried. Right? So I would leave around 4:30 or 5

Patrice Davis:
so I

Corean:
could spend time with my kids. And he called me in his office one day, and he was like, you know, everyone's looking at you leaving early. You probably shouldn't leave early. And I said, well, I'm done with my work for the day, and I can sit and play on the Internet like everyone else is doing so they can look like they're working late and Mhmm. You know, get the prestige and the badge of honor of that when we're not actually being productive. Or I can go home and be a mom and come back tomorrow more productive. And so, like, he didn't really have much to say to that, but we came up in the society of, like, badge of honor. I work until 9 o'clock at night.

Corean:
I'm not gonna sleep, and that's not conducive to a healthy person or a healthy business. And then the second half of my career, I led mostly remote teams. And so working in a remote environment, even pre pandemic, that helps. It really does help when people need different types of, you know, hours in their day based on whether they're and it doesn't matter if you have children or you're taking care of your parents or you have pets or you have we all have lives and slices of life and responsibilities outside of our job. And and I also didn't like when people were, like, single with no kids, and everyone just assumed, well, you get to work more because you don't have these responsibilities. Like, no. That's not fair. Everyone has a life, and we all have things that nobody knows that we have to take care of.

Corean:
So it's something that we should think about.

Patrice Davis:
So one of the things that I'm hearing from you, is similar to something that you posted earlier. I think it was just maybe earlier this week or maybe it was last week, and it was around parent guilt. And, it's so interesting. I'm not sure if that's, like, a term that's being used, but, obviously, it's a real thing. I remember experiencing parent parent guilt, because, you know, unlike you, I'd I would leave at, like, 5:30, drive home like a, you know, crazy person, so I can pick up my my children by 6:30. I don't know if you remember any of those, because, of course, childcare ended at 6:30, and after that, it's like an a dollar an hour. Right?

Patrice Davis:
Yes. Yes.

Patrice Davis:
I remember that. So, you know, but I'm glad that you, number 1, had the flexibility to be bringing your child back into the office, and, of course, still get the work done. So tell me what your thoughts are about parent guilt. Do you still experience parent guilt? And, you know, just, again, would love to get your thoughts about that.

Corean:
Yeah. And I mean, I do. Hindsight is always, you know, something that makes us criticize ourselves. Right? And Mhmm.

Patrice Davis:
But I

Corean:
also have to give myself grace and look back and say, you know what? I did the best that I could in the situation that I was in. Right? And none of us come to this world with an instruction manual on how to be the best parent.

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Corean:
All of us have issues or criticisms or something where we're like, well, my mom or my dad or my parents or my guardians or whatever. Right? It's just part of, I realized, growing up. Like, we have to kinda find our way as our parents find their way. And Mhmm. I happen to kinda be growing up with my kids because I had had my my daughter so young. But I realize there's a lot of moments that I wish I would have maybe been there for or spent more time with because I was either traveling or had to miss some of the games or the but I did build a good tribe around me. So I had a good support system. So my kids did feel supported, but you can't get those moments back.

Corean:
Right? And so I don't I don't beat myself up over it, but I do make sure even now that both of my kids are in their twenties, that I'm still creating moments. Like, that I'm still creating memories Yeah. As much as possible, and I'm present in the moments. And I'm documenting the moments. It's funny. My daughter had a birthday this past weekend. Mhmm. And me and my partner, we went we my kids, like, we live in Atlanta, and they're kind of, you know, in out in the club scene.

Corean:
And so they had, like, a party between my son's graduation and my daughter's birthday. So they were, like, at the clubs. And so we went with them to go celebrate in Okay. Number 1, I can only stay out till 4 o'clock in the morning, like, once a year at this stage. But number 2, my daughter was like, mom, I realized that her and her boyfriend were talking about it. She was like, you I realized that you document a lot of the important moments, and we were talking about how we don't do it enough. And I said, well, number 1, it's good enough. I want people to be present in the moment.

Corean:
I'm not documenting it for social media. I think that's a very different thing. Like, some people have spent their whole lives just so they can post it. Mhmm. I'm if I'm noticing that it's a special moment that I wanna be able to look back at and remember what my children are, I want them to have one day when they wanna look back and reflect, I document it. And I think that sometimes documenting it to capture that present moment is a very different energy and intention than, oh gosh. I gotta capture everything for social media.

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm. Yeah. That is, that's a great idea. I mean, I'm thinking, you know, of course, I think as moms, as parents, we we do do that. I remember doc obviously, documenting their, you know, whether it's their accomplishments or maybe challenges that they experienced. But doing it in their twenties, that's an absolutely that's the fact that, again, you're doing it intentionally. That's what I think I'm learning so much from you is that I don't just do things. Right? Like, remember I I posted when you, shared a little bit about, you know, the the fact that you will now be an author, published author.

Patrice Davis:
And I remember saying, wow. She actually recorded her days at the retreat because she intended on, number 1, of course, becoming an author. So you knew going in, hey. I'm going to do this. And number 2, you recorded some of the days that you know, before you actually went into some of the retreat activities so that you can come back and say, here's the before and here's the after. The after is me becoming an author. So I really like that intentionality. Mhmm.

Patrice Davis:
And some of the other things that I've noticed, as well, you know, about just the way you approach things that I'm gonna try to, you know, incorporate into my life. Now I'm really good at execution. I'm really good at, you know, the things I know what I'm good at. But there are some things that I'm also learning that I need to improve, and so you're kinda helping me identify some of those. Now so you have had an exciting and very successful corporate career, made it all the way to COO. But you also, of course, now are an entrepreneur, and you said businesses. So that means you have a number of businesses. Let's start with 5 to Thrive.

Patrice Davis:
What is 5 to Thrive? Is it a part? What is it, is it a program in one of your, for one of your businesses? I would love to learn a little bit more.

Corean:
Yeah. So 5 to Thrive is actually a meditation. It's a prokin it's it's something that I I give away to a lot of leaders because I suffered extreme burnout where I was in the hospital. I western medicine couldn't help me. There's a lot of things that I had to deal with with that. I was writing out my passwords for my kids because I just didn't know what was gonna happen. It was, like, that bad. And I realized that, you know, we don't really understand what we're doing to our nervous systems in the way that we work and the way that we never reset and rest.

Corean:
And so I wanted to create a tool, especially for entrepreneurs and busy leaders and people who are constantly on the go and have them recognize, like, it literally takes a few minutes to pause and to reset your nervous system so your body doesn't break. Right? So you can find the calm. So you can, you know, allow yourself to return to yourself and give yourself the real self care that you need as in, you know, shutting off that sympathetic nervous system, that fight or flight, activating the parasympathetic nervous system. The best way to do that is with our breath. It's a tool we always have. It doesn't matter if you're in a meeting, you can still use these tools. And so I wanted to teach people tools to be able to keep themselves well while we're trying to do all the things. Right? Because we all want to achieve a lot and have meaningful lives and experience a lot of things.

Corean:
But even if we're doing work that we love, if we don't find a way to reset ourselves

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Corean:
It can it can be problematic.

Patrice Davis:
Oh, so that reminds me. And so this you know, as I I remember actually learning from your website that you said that you actually were burnt out, and you've just described that. Thank you for for doing that. And that you burnt others out. You burnt people out, and it eventually became certified within what you call a bunch of well-being modalities. And, you know, so, obviously, the breathing and some of the this breathing exercise that you, help others, with obviously something that you're doing as well. So tell us about some of the well-being modalities that you've been certified in, and and which one do you think led to the most dramatic change for you?

Corean:
Yeah. So I'm a certified health instructor, certified in Ayurveda. I'm certified in yoga. I'm also, a energy practitioner and Reiki master, and I am certified in positive psychology and well-being. Mhmm. I think the the tool that's had the most impact on my life is yoga. Mhmm. And yoga in the real sense of learning how to move my body and actually breathe.

Corean:
And so, I think what really unlocked that for me was I when I first started doing yoga many, many years ago, I studied in, Ashtanga yoga, which is basically there's a series of poses that you

Patrice Davis:
memorize, and there's kind of a practice in it where you do

Corean:
it daily. Mhmm. And, memorize, and there's kind of a practice in it where you do it daily. Mhmm. And you learn how to breathe with your body movements. But when you do the same set of poses every day, you would think that it would be the same every day. Mhmm. But when you go and do that same set of poses and you're like, oh, I can't really do this pose today.

Corean:
Yesterday, I could do it so easy, and today, I can't. Oh, it's hard to breathe in this. Oh, you start to learn, like, oh, every day is different. My body is different every day. My mind is different every day. This is a tool to bring me back to myself and to have awareness of what my body's telling me because I I constantly talk about now how we ignore the whispers. Right? Our body's constantly talking to us, and it's whispering what it needs every day. And if you ignore it, it's going to eventually roar.

Corean:
And we don't wanna get to the roars because the roars are not fun. Right?

Patrice Davis:
You know, that is so yeah. Okay. So every I want us to have this conversation in an hour. But you're paying so much that I wanna follow-up on. And so we're gonna definitely still stick to the hour. So I'm gonna have to prioritize. Every time you speak, I will have to prioritize what I wanna follow-up on. Rather than the 5, we're gonna cut it down to the 1 or 2.

Patrice Davis:
So, so number 1, I really, really like when you said our bodies speak to us, and we don't want it to get to the point where it's roaring. Right? And so I think about the things that, you know, sometimes we talk about, oh, my body does this when I eat this and, you know, all of these different things that your body's communicating to you. Yeah. I just really recently learned, like, for many, many years, I couldn't eat, wheat. You know, just a lot of things, dairy. And it was my body. Finally, about 6 months ago, I was like, oh my goodness. What I should be doing is being thankful.

Patrice Davis:
Right? Yes. I eliminated those things from my body, so my body wasn't unhappy with me. But I should be really thankful that my body has this, like, early detection system that is constantly telling me you ate something with dairy. You ate something with meat. You ate something with soy. Don't eat them anymore. Mhmm. So I'm now really, really happy.

Patrice Davis:
So thank you. Thank you. Thank you for reinforcing and reminding us that our bodies are talking to us. And the second thing is so I've practiced yoga for years, and I remember thinking to myself, why after you're you're absolutely right. What what why is it that even though I've gotten really good at this pose and my transition's great, why does it still feel a little tight here? Or and all of these different things that you notice. Number 1, you're absolutely right. What you're doing every time you do yoga, once you sit in it and understand it, for me at least, I can't say for anyone else, is it's helping you focus more on your body. And and that you're right.

Patrice Davis:
It's gonna be different every day and be and and noticing those differences is actually one of the benefits of practicing yoga

Patrice Davis:
Yeah.

Patrice Davis:
To me. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe you know? So thank you for bringing that bringing that to, to my attention. So

Corean:
for those of you

Patrice Davis:
who are listening, you wanna learn more about the awesome Korean Canty, check her out at korean canty.com. That's coreancanty.com, and subscribe to the remember to live podcast. And, of course, follow her on Instagram at Kareen Canty, and you can also find her on LinkedIn, at Kareen Canty. So we're gonna now dig into Kareen, the person. So tell us a little bit about where you're from, and anything else you'd like to share about who you are as a person.

Corean:
Yeah. I am from Michigan. I am a Midwestern girl. I've been I've been in Atlanta for 20 years. A lot of people say, well, you're from Atlanta now. And I'm like, no. I'm from Michigan. Yeah.

Corean:
I'm definitely Midwestern born and raised. Mhmm. I don't miss Michigan winters at all, but I definitely, got my values and and who I am was foundational there. And, you know, I realized that for most of my life, my identity has always been Deasia and James' mom. Right? I was mother first because I was a mother before I was even an adult. And so I'm in this phase of life where I'm actually really figuring out, okay, Linda, who is Corinne?

Patrice Davis:
You know,

Corean:
I'm always gonna be be their mom, but I didn't have any period of adulthood where I wasn't a mom. Right. And so I never had that self discovery phase. Mhmm. And so I'm kinda going through it now, with a lot of wisdom under my belt. Right? So I'm going through it at a at a point where I can do a lot of reflection and really, you know, get into the space of what impact do I wanna make on this world and what legacy do I wanna leave as me.

Patrice Davis:
Yeah. Yeah. I was gonna ask you. Yeah. What legacy you wanna leave as the individual, not not just. And just isn't the word that I'd like to use, but not just as, you know, a parent, you you know, a parent to your children. Yeah. And I've thought about that, and that's part of the reason why I've embarked on some of the things I've embarked on recently.

Patrice Davis:
And also dealt with parent guilt, not so much when they were younger because I did some things to be more available. And so I felt like, okay. Well, I did the thing. I I decided to leave my career for 6 years and work part time. And so so I have no parent guilt about that. And I'm not saying that people who did not should, but in my mind, in my experience, but definitely had parent get one. Now I've started a business, and they're young adults, and I'm not as available. And my god.

Patrice Davis:
You know, I don't you know, all of those things, I still think about that. So it's interesting that, once I saw that post, I was like, yeah. Parent guilt is really a thing. So, now you shared that you've had some uphill battles this year. One of them, again, being the caretaker for your mom. Mhmm. 1st question, how's your mom doing? And the second is, what are some lessons you're learning even from that experience?

Corean:
Yeah. It's been a year. It's been quite a year. She had a rough fall. She's she's stable now. She's doing pretty good, but she is battling dementia, and that's not a fun experience. I think this year has also taught me a lot of patience. At the beginning of the year, I I almost felt like I was failing because I had to make the decision to move her and her partner into assisted living.

Corean:
They both lived with me for a few years, because she didn't want she she just didn't want to be anywhere. But it was twofold. Number 1, I couldn't be here every second of the day in with her dementia and having stoves and things in the house. Like, it just wasn't safe. But, also, I realized and it reinforced the importance in community and socialization. Right? Because in my house, she just sat there all day in her chair and just kinda was rotting away. But now she calls me out, like, you have to bring me dimes for bingo. And, like, she doesn't remember anybody.

Corean:
It's like she meets new people every day, but she gets to play bingo. And she goes downstairs to eat, and she has friends. And I think even if you if you want look at any of the studies or if you've watched that, you know, Netflix centurion lived to a 100 show

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Corean:
You know that quality of relationships is the number one indicator of happiness and longevity. Right? And Yeah. I just realized that so many of us don't prioritize our relationships. And especially in this country that I live in, in the United States, we do not have a system set up for relationships and connection as people age. Like, we just don't we don't have it. And so I learned that lesson. But I think the biggest lesson that I've learned in this whole experience is I have to hold space for Corinne, the caregiver, who has to manage everything, and then Corinne, the daughter, who has to experience this season of life with her mother. And those are 2 very separate spaces that I had to learn how to navigate and allow for both.

Corean:
And, also, that there is a such thing as grief now. Right? There's anticipatory grief, and a lot of peep we don't talk about these things. And it's a thing. Like, anticipatory grief is a thing when you become a caretaker and you're having to help your parents or whoever you're taking care of at the end of life. Like, when you're a mom, you're raising them up. You're like, oh, one day they'll feed themselves. One day they'll walk. Like, one day they'll go to the bathroom by themselves.

Corean:
One day they'll be you know? And and it's kind of the reverse. And so you do have this anticipatory grief that you have to learn how to manage because I think we also are in a society that we don't talk about grief as a whole enough, in all the ways that we grieve. Because every time there's a transition or a change in our life, we have to grieve our former selves to accept the new self. And so I think those have been the biggest lessons in this journey with, being a caretaker.

Patrice Davis:
Yeah. And and and reinforcing, you know, what we started with. It there is a too late. Right? And so, and and I'm I'm wondering if another thing that is coming from this is,

Patrice Davis:
like

Patrice Davis:
I said, yes, reinforcing the idea that there is a too late, but does it, you know, drive you or motivate you to, you know, want to live your your, quote, unquote, best life? Does it, you know, does that continue to do that because you're continuously, there seeing what's missing and and even doing things like, you know, trying to build stronger relationships? You know, so that's interesting you say that because I'm in that same space, slightly different, thinking more about relationships and how to recenter them. Mhmm. I don't know how much in your coaching, and I'd love to hear this. This wasn't one of my the questions I thought about before. As you're coaching, you know, women who are leaders at the top at the top of their game, CEOs, you know, entrepreneurs that are either new have been doing this at for some time, how much relationships come up in your coaching and how much and how challenging it may be for them to center relationships. I know that's a challenge for me because as you're building a business, almost all of your thoughts are about the business. And, so I'm gonna stop talking because I'd love to hear your your thoughts about that or anything you can share about that.

Corean:
Yeah. I think it's important to understand what's important to you. And when you really sit down and have these self reflection exercises. And one of the things I coach a lot of people on is redefining success on their own terms. Right? Because most of us are striving for some version of success that was given to us. That we were told if you do these things and check these boxes, you will be happy and everything will be great. And many of us have checked all the boxes, and we're like, well, that wasn't true. Now what? Right? And now I've spent 20 years.

Corean:
I I don't have contact with any of my old friends. I don't have any hobbies. I don't even I have so many people who are like, I don't even remember what I like to do. Right? Because all I do is work. And so number 1, first, you have to reestablish the relationship with yourself and get to know who you are Mhmm. Underneath all the shoulds that have been piled on. Like, who are you really? How do I reconnect with who I always was, who I am, my inner child? What brings me joy? What allowing myself to just have fun to have fun because, you know, I'm I'm a big advocate of play. Mhmm.

Corean:
But also then it's like, how do how do I become intentional about my life by making my new north star being what's the day I wanna live? And, like, what's my ideal day? Because life really only happens in the days. And if we know how we wanna live, that helps us filter our career decisions, like where we live, what we

Patrice Davis:
do. Yeah.

Corean:
And then treat connecting just as sacred as any other work meeting and, like, schedule it. I was just working with one of my clients yesterday, and one of the things that he was working on is, like, really wanting to reestablish connections. And I said, well, then schedule 30 minutes a week and have that just be pure connection time. Call up an old friend. Ping someone. Like, we can all carve out 30 minutes a week. Right? We can do something even if we feel like it's impossible. And then once we get 30 minutes, we'll be like, you know what? I think I want a hour.

Corean:
You know what? I'm gonna schedule a lunch. You know what? Like, once we give ourselves permission to take a small tiny step towards the thing, we start to recognize we actually have more power in our lives than we allow ourselves to have.

Patrice Davis:
I just remember I said I wanted to have an hour, Corinne. You're giving me way too much to follow-up on. But I really I really, really, really like you know? So one of the things that I think from you know, that I like that you said is that actually schedule it in. A lot of times, we schedule in time to do all the things that, you know, the especially for task oriented people like me. I'll schedule things all the time, but I've never thought about scheduling time to just step away, pick up the phone, you know, catch up with friends, all the things that I wish I was doing more. And so that is just an awesome, awesome, awesome suggestion, and I really appreciate it. And, you know, so that kinda lends it kinda

Patrice Davis:
leads to 2 things. Number 1, we'd love to

Patrice Davis:
learn about leads to 2 things. Number 1, we'd love to learn about your coaching business, your leadership coaching business. What is the name of your leadership coaching business? What area do you specialize in? Because I know some coaches specialize in certain areas, so I'd love to learn a little bit about that. And then I also wanna learn about your your your business where you actually go in. You help businesses incorporate play

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Patrice Davis:
Into their culture. So if you can tell I'm assuming those are 2 businesses. Are there any other businesses? Okay. Right. No.

Corean:
No. Just us. Just us.

Patrice Davis:
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Tell me about both of those. That'll be fantastic.

Corean:
Yeah. And so well, shift to play. I've been a professional improviser for 15 years. If you've ever worked for me in in corporate environment or you've ever just kind of been around me, you've done improv. Like, we've played. We've done something. As me and and and I'm I'm a cofounder in that business. And the guy who I was cofounder with, he's also in my improv team.

Corean:
We have a BIPOC improv group troop that we've performed together for about 10 years. And we had talked for a long time about, we need to bring this to corporate because he also had a corporate career, made it to the top of the ladder. And then when we both found ourselves kind of exiting at the same time, we're like, let's let's let's bring this to life because improv was one of the tools that we were able to use to sit at tables and climb ladders and be in rooms that not everybody wanted us to be in both both being, you know, black people black people in America. And it helped us to understand how to, you know, navigate the room and understand energy and think about thought diversity and put ourselves in other people's shoes and all these amazing skills, for critical thinking and creative thinking innovation and just also, like, joy and belly laughs was when's the last time you belly laughed at work? It's really good for you. And it also helps, you know, to get to know each other better. So we decided to kind of do that. So that that that's a really fun business. We do custom programs and workshops.

Corean:
And sometimes people are just kinda wanna hire us for a team building event, but we're you're always gonna walk away with with something more than that. Mhmm. And then my coaching business has evolved over the last couple of years. I started out coaching when I first left corporate because a lot of people missed having access to me in that way. So, that just kind of happened by demand. And so I've done a lot of executive life coaching over the last couple years. And as I move into next year, my coaching is actually getting even more focused into helping leaders find their voice, especially in this environment and the country that we're in, and how work is changing

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Corean:
And how important it is to realize you can't just go get a job for 20 years and be okay. Like, you have to establish your thought leadership strategy. You have to establish your personal brand. And, like, how do we do that for your voice? Not the shoulds. Not the Yeah. This is what I should talk about. This is what I should do. But, like, as we come upon, like, mid career, we start thinking more about climbing the ladder.

Corean:
We start thinking about, like, wanting to make an impact and meaning and how do I take what I've learned in this wisdom and share it and, like, leave a legacy and do more. And so because so many of my coaching clients, that was a big part of what happened when we started coaching. Like, yeah, let's redesign your life. Let's redefine success. But then how do I give more? How do I be more? And I'm also a TEDx speaker and a TEDx coach. And so a lot of people come to me and want to know more about that path and that journey. And so I'm leaning into helping leaders, you know, learn how to get present in their life so they could be a presence in the world. And so we can start to eliminate this epidemic of end of life regrets and start to eliminate this epidemic of keeping our wisdom to ourselves in playing small and not being as big as we in taking up the space that we really should.

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm. 10:10 follow ups from that, but we're gonna keep it Okay. Now, seriously, so you brought up something, improv. Tell me if I'm understanding this correctly that part of the reason why you believe you're so good at improv is because sometimes when you're the only in a certain space, you kinda have to improvise. You have to like you said, you have to improvise. You're sort of always on alert because, let me know if I'm understanding that first because that's immediately when you said that, I was like, you know, that's an excellent point. When you're the only or you feel like you have to, you know, conform, there is an improvisation approach. At least that's the way I'm understanding it.

Patrice Davis:
Let me make sure I'm clear that's what you were saying first.

Corean:
Well, I think it's twofold. I think number 1, we innately learn skills to navigate rooms and situations in a way that we have to learn how to read everybody else in the room and see where we fit in. Mhmm.

Patrice Davis:
But I

Corean:
think actually going and learning, quote, unquote, rules of improv. I say that because as children, we all innately know how to do improv. As adults, we have to make up rules and and relearn how to play and engage when put a bunch of kids in a room. They're gonna follow the rules of improv as they play together and create worlds and explore and build because they know if we're not building together, the the fun ends. Right? Yeah. And so learning the principles of improv, like yes, and thinking allows you to also show up in those spaces in a way of being able to be the one in the room that actually connects the ideas and builds upon the ideas and helps to push the innovation and the creativity. When a lot of people the first thing out your mouth is either no or yes, but which is also just a no. It's just another way of negating.

Corean:
And so Yeah. Learning how to do that helps to navigate not only building your career, but I also think it helps with your confidence and your connection and your collaboration.

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm. Yeah. So, 2 other quick things. So number 1, I really like how your businesses complement each other. Right? So you are an an executive leadership coach. You're helping people find their voice, and that's where your business is, you know, shifting towards being, a core focus. But then, also, again, this other business where you actually go into workspaces and you help people learn how to integrate play into, you know, the workspace. So I really, really, really like that, how complimentary they are.

Patrice Davis:
And then one other quick thing, though, I'd love to ask, and I keep saying they're quick. It's all quick, I guess, is around the the possibility pause here. Let me pause. Sorry. Bear with me. The the question came and it went. This will all be edited out. I haven't had anything to eat, so bear with me.

Patrice Davis:
Alright. Bear with me here. I wanna make sure it's something I'm there was so much, really.

Patrice Davis:
It could

Patrice Davis:
there really was a lot. And I was like, there's so much to process. Yes. Now I remember because I remember it stuck with me. I was like, that is so interesting. So one of the things that you said, Corinne, was that you and and I want you to please correct me if I'm in I'm misinterpreting this or explaining it the incorrect way. That But one of the things that you are doing is you're helping, leaders, you know you know, really, really find their voices so that they can learn how to operate in a way that's authentic to them. And I sometimes try not to use that word authentic because I feel like it's been overused, but it's it's true.

Patrice Davis:
And so the only way to really, like you said, use that where you are your mid career to really elevate yourself based on your own definition of what success looks like is to really start with understanding who you are. So So I'd love to learn a little bit more about what you think some of the challenges are. Yes. We know there are societal challenges. What are those some internal things? The things that we're saying to ourselves that, you know, causes us to be stuck and not really understand who we are so that we can be authentic. I have my opinions.

Patrice Davis:
I have my experiences.

Patrice Davis:
I would love to learn what your experiences have been in in terms of the the coaching you do.

Corean:
Yeah. I mean, well, if if for anybody who studied, like, positive intelligence, we all have what are called saboteurs, like the voices in our head. And the number one universal saboteur for all of us is the judge. Right?

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Corean:
So we always judge ourselves. And so many of us are too worried about, like, am I gonna do the right thing? Am I gonna say the right thing? Nobody really wants to listen to me. Oh, and and we're then we start comparing ourselves to everyone else in Mhmm. We can kind of paralyze ourselves or get stuck or, like, I don't know what I don't know what my strengths are. I don't know because you've been so busy on the hamster wheel that you haven't took time to reevaluate and understand, like, well, what have I learned over the years? Like, what are what what is my skill set? What am I strong? What do I like to talk about? Because it's very real that many of us are really, really good at things we actually do not enjoy doing at all. Right? But but because we started it and we got good at it, we kept getting more of it, and we kept accepting it because we got a title or a pay or something associated with it. But, like, how do we get back to like, what do we really enjoy? Because number 1, you wanna have joy in it. Like, we don't wanna spend our lives being somebody else because everyone else has already taken.

Corean:
So let's stop trying to model ourselves after. We can be inspired by. We can benchmark, but there's only one you.

Patrice Davis:
Yeah.

Corean:
And I had a really great conversation the other day with some friends, and we were talking about the words differentiate and distinct. Right? Like, sometimes we get too caught up in how you have to differentiate. You have to differentiate. You have to you have to be so different. And it's like, no. You were born distinctly you. Mhmm. No one else has had the exact same lived experience.

Corean:
No one else learns the same. No one else speaks the same. No one else thinks the same. Even if you're an identical twin, you still experience the world through your skin in a different way. Right? Mhmm. And so learning how to get present within yourself

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Corean:
And learning what those things are and understanding what your real points of view are and what you've really learned and how to share that in a way that feels good and natural and not forced or performative. Because I think we, especially if you're around our age, we've come up in a world of performative leadership. This is what a leader looks like. This is what a leader sounds like. This is how you have to dress. This is what you gotta do. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Corean:
But we never know who's looking and waiting just for us and the many lives that we will impact and give other people permission to be themselves by us being brave enough and vulnerable enough to lead authentically through who we are.

Patrice Davis:
Awesome. Awesome. Now here's my question, because I'm gonna go back to something that's been, an intentional. It really has been an intentional theme, at least for me, because I know a little bit about what you've shared with us when we went on that author retreat. I know a little bit about some of, you know, your experiences that you've shared online. We're gonna go back to the too late aspect. Now you're publishing a book. How much of the book is about, you know, making sure that we avoid the too late scenarios that we many of us are kind of barreling towards? What is the book about that? And if there you know, if not, what what is your book gonna be about? Yeah.

Corean:
Yeah. So my book is about basically how to do life better, but without getting caught up in thinking that we have to have these big drastic changes or these big drastic transitions. Or, you know, many times people think, well, then for me to change my life, I have to totally quit my job and move somewhere else or become an entrepreneur or vice versa. Like, we think of these big things that feel overwhelming. And so we don't do anything. Right? But really, it's the small tiny shifts, the tiny leaps, the tiny ways that you can restructure your day, the tiny ways that you can really look at and shape your life

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Corean:
That make the big difference. Right? It's how to kinda get more present and live in the day. And if I and I wanted to to have some play and some fun, and so there will be some some drawings and some cartoons. But it really is based off that premise of me recognizing that there is a such thing as too late. And we may not always have the budget or the time to do all the things we wanna do, but it does have little things in it. Like, some people really wanna take a trip to, like, Italy or Rome, but they just can't do it right now. So they don't do anything. So but but what about finding a really good Italian restaurant and getting an Italian book and you and your partner playing with speaking Italian at dinner? You know what I'm saying? Like, how can you start to bring some of these experiences into your life now to set the seeds of attention for what might come in the future, but also just to have fun and experience it now? Just because you can't get the big thing doesn't mean there's little ways that you can't enjoy life, be in the moment, create the life that you want right now with what you have.

Patrice Davis:
Yeah. That that is yeah. That's an excellent point. It's those little steps just like the recommendation to go ahead and schedule in time to, you know, make that connection to

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Patrice Davis:
Rebuild relationships or foster relationships. And so that, you know, was an that's a great example of exactly what you're doing, and or you're gonna be explaining in your book. And from what I understand, you actually have a book deal. Is that right?

Corean:
Well, I'm working on the deal. I do have a literary agent, and so we are definitely working along that process. And so I'm very excited. We'll be, digging back into that full speed after the holidays, which I'm actually glad because I wanna have a little bit of downtime at the end of the year. But it's been great because it's also forced me to be honest with myself and accountable to myself for, like, having an actual writing practice. So because sometimes we can be like, yes. I'm gonna do the thing I said. And we do one thing, and then we get back into our habits and we don't do the thing we said.

Corean:
So how do we build these, you know, accountability practices and find our accountability partners in it so Mhmm. We can, you know, stay committed to ourselves.

Patrice Davis:
Yeah. Yeah. And it's so you know, I'm thinking about accountability now, and, I we only have just a few more questions, and I thank you again for coming and sharing all this wonderful experience and knowledge and and tips and, you know, just really enjoy it. But I now that you've brought this up, I'm thinking a little bit about account about accountability and how our social lives can help with accountability and how, again, I'm a I'm a task. I can get things done really, really great at accomplishing things, but there are times when I slip up. And I know that having an accountability partner, someone to check-in and say, how are you doing, would definitely help me accomplish more. And accomplishments aren't necessarily what I'm looking for. It's really how can I have more of an impact? For example, I haven't really written much, right, since the retreat, but I know that had I taken you up and maybe a few others on having an accountability partner, would have been further along or another program that I'm in, a fantastic program that I'm in.

Patrice Davis:
And I just emailed them and said, hey. Can I ask for an accountability partner? Mhmm. Because that social something about that, you know, this other this other person you know, you don't wanna let them down, I think, or it's it's maybe just having that relationship, and the relationship is formed and embedded based on you all accomplishing this thing together.

Corean:
Yeah.

Patrice Davis:
I think that's just something that I'm just now starting to realize. Yeah. It might it might be gauge as they say at 53. So, so, again, if you guys would like to learn more about Coreen and her work, check out her website, coreenecanty.com. And, again, it's coreancanty, and subscribe to the remember to live podcast. She's been she's had that podcast for a year. So Mhmm. Lot of content, a lot of, you know, some of the things that I was trying to pick back on, I'm sure a lot of that shared in her podcast.

Patrice Davis:
Go check her out. And, of course, you can follow her on Instagram and on LinkedIn at Corinne Canty. So as we wind down, I would love to know your thoughts about aging in general. And how do you think aging has made you better? And what do you think is the definition of better?

Corean:
Yeah. Well, it's it's funny that you said what's the definition of better because I really have leaned into that word this year. I'm actually about to launch, a newsletter with that title Mhmm. Because I really like action words. And so I'm I'm the type of person that when I'm really thinking about something, I will go look up all the definitions and all the dictionaries to see, like, well, sometimes we use words and we don't even know what they mean. Right? We just kind of use them. And I really appreciate better as a verb, which means to improve a condition or prove yourself as a person or improve a situation. Right.

Corean:
So it's really to improve. And one of the things I strive on is improving myself every day. Like, I want to be a little bit better than yesterday. I wanna make my life a little bit better than yesterday. And that's kind of the goal of looking into the future for me instead of saying, I wanna be this new title or I wanna do this thing. Like, no, I just wanna be a little bit better the next day. Right? I just wanna make things a little bit better. I just want the world to be a little bit better.

Corean:
I just want that person to be a little bit better when they met me than before they met me. You know? How can I just leave a little mark upon

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm?

Corean:
The person that I'm engaging with? And so that's also something I think that I've I've learned as I age and start to have, like, real reflection across my life and what I've done and what I've leaned into. And it's funny. I was just talking to my my friend the other day. My mother did not enjoy she's she's well, she still still doesn't. She's in her eighties. But, like, she did not like getting older. Like, she was one of the people who was very critical of herself when she first got gray hairs or a wrinkle or all the all the societal standards that are put on women when it comes to the physicality of aging. Mhmm.

Corean:
And so it's funny because she's flabbergasted that I don't plan on covering up my grays. Like, she'll see my gray hairs and be like, you know you know that that you have gray hairs. Are you not gonna dye it? And I'm like, no, mom. Like, she might not remember anything else, but she can look at me and say, you should do these things. And it's like, no. Actually, I feel good about it. Like, these are earned. Like, I've been alive long enough to have earned this, and not everybody gets to live this long.

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Corean:
You know? Not everybody has been able to have as many lived experiences as me. And so the older I get, the more I realize it's a blessing to have the wisdom that I have accumulated and to know that I get to keep learning and growing every day. And every day I can wake up and learn and grow more.

Patrice Davis:
Mhmm.

Corean:
And I was talking to I was talking to one of my clients, and we're talking about this idea of, like, they're they're very, they get very overwhelmed when someone's like, well, what is your purpose? Or what is your why? And they think that it has to be this very specific thing. Mhmm. And I say, like, my why is to get to the end of this thing with no juice left. Right? My purpose is to show up fully as I can every single day and experience the day that I'm blessed with. Like, it doesn't have to be more than that. And I think that was that's my biggest lesson as I get older and realize that there's probably more time behind me than there is in front of me.

Patrice Davis:
Wow. So we have 2 questions left. And, and, I really I ask this of every guest because I think it's important for us to hear all the different ways that people view aging. You just gave an excellent answer about, you know, how aging has made you better and what better means to you. So my question that I ask everyone, and everyone's giving me a different answer in the 53 guests that I've had. What does an age has no limit life look like to you? What does that mean to you?

Corean:
It means throw out the boxes. I think that's the biggest thing. It means throw out the boxes and the shoulds and the, you know, like, the fact that I was club hopping with my kids until 4 AM last Saturday. A lot of people like, what do you mean you went to the the well, my kids are going to the club. I wanna have the experience. I like to dance. Like, I could still move my body. You know what it's like? And some people would be like, why would you ever do that? And I'm like, look.

Corean:
I'm sorry if your kids don't think you're cool. But mine mine think I no. I'm just like, I wanna experience life. Yeah. And so there's a lot of things where people will say, well, at your age, you should. At this age, you should. This is what you should be doing. And it's like, no.

Corean:
Because my my inner child, my 8 year old self is still in there. She's like, I wanna go play. Can we have fun? Like, can we color? Can we draw? Can we skip down the road? Can we dance in the middle of the street? Like, who made the rule that the older we get that life has to stop being fun and that you have to be strict and rigid in whatever you wanna label responsible as. Right?

Patrice Davis:
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That now that I really am just absorbing because I'm thinking about the similarities between what you just experienced with your daughter at concert or clubbing with her until 4 AM. I'm actually gonna be doing something very similar in 2 weeks. And I remember thinking to myself, should I be going to this concert with my daughter? It probably won't end until, like, 3 or 4 in the morning. And I was like, bump that. I'm going to the concert.

Patrice Davis:
I love this kind of music. You know? She likes this kind of music. We're gonna go and enjoy that together. It doesn't matter what people think. In fact, we're also gonna go climb, you know, the, this these, you know, climb this we're gonna climb up falls. We're gonna go to the falls, and we're gonna climb it together. And I remember thinking the last time we did it, I was the adult. She was a child.

Patrice Davis:
But you know what? We're now adults, and I'm still gonna go and enjoy that. So Mhmm. You know, I'm so glad that you brought that up because I am throwing out the boxes. I've been throwing out the boxes for years, and I think a lot of us, including many of the listeners, are also in the middle of throwing out boxes. I explained to you that I'm climbing out of my box. I'm unboxing myself. And so, I really appreciate that we're ending on that note because I think that's just a fantastic way for us to, you know, remind people that life is to be lived. It should be lived better, and there is a thing.

Patrice Davis:
You know? There is such a thing as too late, and that's something that we've learned from Corinne. Thank you so much, Corinne, for, you know, sharing so much knowledge, for giving me so much follow-up questions that I really couldn't follow-up on. So it's just so much wisdom, and I definitely now see how, you know, so how people have kind of followed you from when you actually maybe supervised them or maybe they knew at work to just saying, hey. I'd love to continue learning from you while you're also learning yourself. So Mhmm. I appreciate the time that you took to spend, and, you know, share more with the age has no limit, podcast and our listeners. And, of course, you've been an of what we're trying to do here, and that is to show everyone that age has no limit.

Corean:
Thank you for having me. Thank you so much for listening. I hope you learned something, laughed a little, and were inspired to show up more fully to your life. Send this to someone who needs it. Also, don't forget to like and subscribe so we could all help each other remember to live. And if you're looking for more life tips and inspiration, subscribe to Better, a weekly newsletter about finding your voice, believing out loud, and living better. Until next time, my friends. Sending you love and light.